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ALRIGHT! ive been into phish for a couple years now and I think what these guys are doing now sounds just as good if not better than before the hiatus? what do you guys think? do i just need to explore more or is what i heard on nye this year as good as it gets..
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i definitely think they sound better since the hiatus..but for me personally I love phish mid to late 90's
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86-89 is phish's birth, 94-95 is upbeat, raging phish, 97-98 id funky phish, 99-hiatus is ambience. today is thought out, almost progressive phishIMO
each style is great in it's own way, and to each their own in choosing a favorite
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@TheArgus said:
Just me...
86-89 is phish's birth, 94-95 is upbeat, raging phish, 97-98 id funky phish, 99-hiatus is ambience. today is thought out, almost progressive phishCouldn't agree more...but 97-00 was alotta the phunk! But, they could bring the ambiance* segues, it would be great to have back!
IMO
each style is great in it's own way, and to each their own in choosing a favorite
Just me...
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I rhink its all personal. I think they are playing as good as ever right now. However, I have very special memorieso f '97-99 because I was in college, going to shows with all of my friends and taking massive amounts of drugs with not a care in the world even now, when I listen to a show from that era, I can picture that specific tape cover which evokes memories of hanging out in my old apartment spinning tapes to send out to people.
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It's definitely an evolution of sound. Personally, I prefer shows today with the massive set lists and upbeat energy versus the four song second sets of the late 90's. That said, it's probably because that's what they're playing now. In the late 90's I would drool over a 90minute piper> ghost> twist.
Seems to me whatever they did at the last show is what I like best.
Seems to me whatever they did at the last show is what I like best.
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I also think Phish is definitely tight since return form break up, however my favorite years are 93-96.
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Every year is unique. Thats what makes this band so great. 94 is nothing like 95, 96 is nothing like 97..etc
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I think 3.0 has already surpassed anything 2.0. I don't really think that 1.0 and 3.0 are comparable because the styles are so different. The jamming is way more structured....most of the time. To be honest, on any given day I like the 3.0 stuff more. Then on other days the 90's stuff stikes my mood. I do think I prefer Trey's 90's tone a little better.If the live stuff 3.0 is doing continues to get stronger each tour and they throw a little more of the Seven Below> Ghost type jamming from Albany 09' I might say they are peaking again.
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My favorite years were from 90 - 94...that's when I first started seeing them. I think they are playing more like they did back in the early days. I love Phish 3.0!
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OP is correct, Phish sounds just as good, if not better, than ever before. At least in 2010 they did. I would not say so about most of the 2009 shows. It seems to me that when I listen to early to mid 90's shows, it is REALLY Trey dominant and I cant stop listening to the guitar in the jams. Now, for me personally, it seems like Mike is taking some of the reigns and really going with it. I find myseld paying more attention to Mike than Trey for more of the show now. I do wish they would jam longer occasionally though. I mean, dont force it, but a 15 minute 2001 every now and then wouldnt hurt.
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I really like Phish from pretty much every era, but I definitely like RunawayCory's explanation as 3.0 almost being a progressive era (although they have brought elements of the past back like @MrMiner said).
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I can see them breaking into more jamming this year. They are getting comfortable with each other again. It takes a lot of time to build that chemistry between each other after taking such a long brake as a band. I like what runawaycory said about them being progressive in 3.0. They are def trying to reinvent themselves like they have many times before. I think this summer will be another step for Phish and it will leave many puddles that were once faces.
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^^^When I question phish's jamming prowess, I am reminded of Albany 09 when they broke into 40 minute territory with the Seven Below> Ghost. This proved to me that they still have the impromptu skills of previous years. Look at that epic 15 minute Chalkdust from Camden '10, right? that was totally a "ok, we're sounding good, let's see if everybody wants to come along for this ride" type jam. They've definitely still got "it" and I think they can only get better from here on out. Honestly they sounded different as they evolved through all of their eras, but I think they can mimic each of these styles, no problem.
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personally, i think they were at their prime from '93-'98. they played with precision and their material came so naturally to them that they were able to really explore it. now, i think they are still getting it together. i think the fall tour and the new year's run showed that they might be heading back to being able to really dig deep. i think nye and 1/1/11 were freaking fantastic, but i don't think they were "as good as it gets." as long as the guys stay on the path they are on now, we are going to really hear some new shit this summer! the explorations are going to get deeper. that may not mean longer jams, but it will mean that they will be able to more with the same material. once they get their brains out of the way, the real jams will come! hell, after last year, i guess i have to say that they are already here.
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@MiguelSanchez said: personally, i think they were at their prime from '93-'98. they played with precision and their material came so naturally to them that they were able to really explore it.What he said.
now, i think they are still getting it together. i think the fall tour and the new year's run showed that they might be heading back to being able to really dig deep. i think nye and 1/1/11 were freaking fantastic, but i don't think they were "as good as it gets." as long as the guys stay on the path they are on now, we are going to really hear some new shit this summer! the explorations are going to get deeper. that may not mean longer jams, but it will mean that they will be able to more with the same material. once they get their brains out of the way, the real jams will come! hell, after last year, i guess i have to say that they are already here.
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Well, I am giving another listen to 1/1/11 and it is the best show of 2011, hands down! 
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Well I was listening to an interview with Mike and he said that if one member of Phish gets on stage with at least one other guy the chemistry would be their instantly. But I think that they have been great in 3.0. I mean in 2009 my dads response to me after listening to the hampton shows were "well there wasn't much jamming" and now last year after the 12/30 brodcast I'm like "that was a good show!" And he was like "yeah especailly the second set because there was a lot of jamming in it". The point I'm trying to make with that is that if they just push the jamming even the slightest bit more I think we will have the greatest Phish year in 2011 and up
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I really think 2011 will be a great year. 2009 was on and off, but it was their first time back together in years. Summer '10 was good. Fall '10 was really good. And holiday '10 was great. And 1.1.11 was AMAZING. They're back.
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