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FYI about superball wristbands

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PunchYouInTheAntelope Permalink
So I live in Watkins and was just told by a very reliable source that apparently the wristbands at superball will have some sort of gps technology and once your scanned they can track you anywhere while you have the wrist band on. just though that was pretty weird and that i should spread the word....thoughts?
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conradjohansen Permalink
conradjohansen Maybe it'll be used if a spun out Wook wanders away and gets lost.
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TheKev Permalink
TheKev whoa, why would they need to track you?
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CanYouStillHaveFun Permalink
CanYouStillHaveFun @TheKev said:
whoa, why would they need to track you?

To keep tabs on those dirty hippies filing their town with crime, duh!
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PunchYouInTheAntelope Permalink
I dont think it has anything to do with WGI...phish pretty much had control over this entire thing and are renting the property from them...WGI has very little say over what goes on that weekend
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CanYouStillHaveFun Permalink
CanYouStillHaveFun It's just like on the Discovery channel when they tag an animal, it's so they can observe the wook in it's natural habitat.
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JayAnastasio Permalink
JayAnastasio RDIF tags can and are put into a shitload of items, i highly doubt they are tracking us
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forbins0218 Permalink
forbins0218 @PunchYouInTheAntelope said:
So I live in Watkins and was just told by a very reliable source that apparently the wristbands at superball will have some sort of gps technology and once your scanned they can track you anywhere while you have the wrist band on. just though that was pretty weird and that i should spread the word....thoughts?
Come back to the forum once you come down from the Alice in Wonderland blotter.
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chris_22 Permalink
chris_22 @CanYouStillHaveFun said:
It's just like on the Discovery channel when they tag an animal, it's so they can observe the wook in it's natural habitat.
ding ding, winner.

Plus, who cares if they are tracking us? I will take a hammer to the wrist band after the fest so if there is anything in there, it'll be broken. problem solved.
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stagebanter Permalink
This is probably a typical "non-tech" person's bastardization of RFID technology. They might embed RFID chips in the wristbands so they can use it to scan the number of people going in/out... think of it as an "e-turnstile". All it takes is for a person with little understanding of technology to hear "wristbands" and "radio frequency" and BAM, retarded theory about GPS tracking.
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mgh2001 Permalink
mgh2001 Well this is weird.
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CleverRuse Permalink
CleverRuse @stagebanter said:
This is probably a typical "non-tech" person's bastardization of RFID technology. They might embed RFID chips in the wristbands so they can use it to scan the number of people going in/out... think of it as an "e-turnstile". All it takes is for a person with little understanding of technology to hear "wristbands" and "radio frequency" and BAM, retarded theory about GPS tracking.
Yup. If you're worried about them "tracking" you, just take the thing off.
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Jayem Permalink
Jayem I bet Facebook has something to do with this! :)

@stagebanter is almost certainly correct. Why the hell would they need to know where you are?
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brownies Permalink
brownies RFID chips can only be read from at most 10 feet away. They are using this technology to prevent fakes and thats it.
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stagebanter Permalink
Also if you REALLY don't want them "tracking" your RFID, wrap some foil around it... not that hard.
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mgh2001 Permalink
mgh2001 @brownies said:
RFID chips can only be read from at most 10 feet away. They are using this technology to prevent fakes and thats it.
Good to know. It literally makes zero sense to track anyone. lol.

Unless they're scared of someone wandering off as passing out in the woods, left out for the...well there are no bears, or wolves...watch out for those chipmunks though.
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Sativar Permalink
Sativar Without any other knowledge than this thread, it sounds to me like RFID and not GpS
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WasteOfTime Permalink
WasteOfTime 1973 was better.
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mesamark5 Permalink
please no feeding the wooks,they'll steal on their own.
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iseepurple Permalink
@brownies said:
RFID chips can only be read from at most 10 feet away. They are using this technology to prevent fakes and thats it.
Are you sure? I have followed marathon runners from miles away. I assume it's the same technology, no?

Plus, how would the ten foot deal solve the fake issue?
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iseepurple Permalink
@stagebanter said:
This is probably a typical "non-tech" person's bastardization of RFID technology. They might embed RFID chips in the wristbands so they can use it to scan the number of people going in/out... think of it as an "e-turnstile". All it takes is for a person with little understanding of technology to hear "wristbands" and "radio frequency" and BAM, retarded theory about GPS tracking.
Nice call. That's right on point.
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties thoughts? i think its BS
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IenjoyMyself Permalink
IenjoyMyself I'm really scared, and don't think i'm going anymore.
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757phan Permalink
757phan @stagebanter said:
Also if you REALLY don't want them "tracking" your RFID, wrap some foil around it... not that hard.
I was also planning on wrapping some around my head like in the movie "Signs" by that dude who used to make good movies. This way the WGI thought police can't infiltrate my warlock brain.

Seriously bros?

Image
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the_Crested_Hogchoker Permalink
the_Crested_Hogchoker @PunchYouInTheAntelope said:
So I live in Watkins and was just told by a very reliable source that apparently the wristbands at superball will have some sort of gps technology and once your scanned they can track you anywhere while you have the wrist band on. just though that was pretty weird and that i should spread the word....thoughts?
Absurd.
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spasticdeadeyehound Permalink
spasticdeadeyehound This is all just a preventative measure to protect us all from alien invasion. the wristbands are also equipped with Kitty Malone's laser beam deflection technology. bring your mule
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skillz Permalink
@spasticdeadeyehound said:
This is all just a preventative measure to protect us all from alien invasion. the wristbands are also equipped with Kitty Malone's laser beam deflection technology. bring your mule
Haha
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JayAnastasio Permalink
JayAnastasio you have the same chip in your passport
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Looks2Much Permalink
Looks2Much Sounds like someone wanted you to start a wild thread on Phish.net for their own amusement.

It seems obvious why they are doing this to me... to keep the monsters away.

Seriously, it's probably more like those little anti-theft things in CDs and batteries... to keep the non Glen-closers out of the ritzy camping areas.
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Dan615 Permalink
Dan615 They are doing the same thing at Bonnaroo this year, and Im sure most other major festivals. It was like a few years ago when festivals made the tansition to those stupid cloth wristbands that they all use now. This is more than likely just to prevent fakes, as has been posted. I think it would be very expensive to make , what, 80,000 wristbands with tracking devices? I mean, they arent going to just make 60k bands, they have to have extras. Just saying
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties @Dan615 said:
They are doing the same thing at Bonnaroo this year, and Im sure most other major festivals. It was like a few years ago when festivals made the tansition to those stupid cloth wristbands that they all use now. This is more than likely just to prevent fakes, as has been posted. I think it would be very expensive to make , what, 80,000 wristbands with tracking devices? I mean, they arent going to just make 60k bands, they have to have extras. Just saying
why are the cloth wristbands stupid? a thousand times more comfortable than those shitty hard plastic ones if you ask me. also tend to look a lot cooler, too.
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Dan615 Permalink
Dan615 I just dont like them. The excess cloth that kind of dangles just really annoys me for some reason. I guess I just notice them more then the vinyl wristbands.
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tripsforjoeg Permalink
tripsforjoeg Not so much for tracking. I think the wristbands will have chips so they can be scanned, hence no hard copy tickets.
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UncleRunkle Permalink
UncleRunkle 1. Place RFID bracelets on wooks
2. Track wooks at large wook gathering
3. ?????
4. Profit

Dude this thread made my head hurt. I can't say I'm particularly worried about Phish, RLM, or WGI trying to track my whereabouts.
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd Maybe if I just wave my hand/wristband in a Jedi-like fashion at the beer tent, that will count as payment for the beer?

I'll be like "What? I put 100 credits on this thing at the gate..." and walk away with the beer.
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties @johnnyd said:
Maybe if I just wave my hand/wristband in a Jedi-like fashion at the beer tent, that will count as payment for the beer?

I'll be like "What? I put 100 credits on this thing at the gate..." and walk away with the beer.
that would be so sick. and phenomenal to do while tripping.
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd I have no intent on copywriting that idea. Everyone should try it.
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd @Jayem said:
I bet Facebook has something to do with this! :)

***Checking in from VIP Beer tent via my SBIX wristband***

/this check-in designed to simultaneously let the gov't know where I am and make you feel bad
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JayAnastasio Permalink
JayAnastasio cost is not an issue here, RFID chips are dirt cheap, which is why they are in so many things

Trey was the one that decided he wanted them in the wristbands. He wants to see how many people really leave to piss/grab beer during TTE. if the numbers are high, it will get shelved

we all need to do our part to make this happen
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties i i was thinking about this today and i think superball WILL get TTE'd
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Jman428 Permalink
Jman428 It would cost them WAY to much money for them to put GPS's in everyones wristbands lol...
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JayAnastasio Permalink
JayAnastasio @Jman428 said:
It would cost them WAY to much money for them to put GPS's in everyones wristbands lol...
it is not a GPS per say, it is a tracking chip. like the sensor they use on CD's and shit at the store. stores use it for security, someplaces use it to keep track of inventory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/high-tech-gadgets/rfid.htm

not so far fetched that they might have them in the wristbands, then use them to try and keep track of us. they might have sensors on the gates as we walk to the concert field each night. too see actual attendance versus tickets sold
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iamfluff Permalink
iamfluff @757phan said:
@stagebanter said:
Also if you REALLY don't want them "tracking" your RFID, wrap some foil around it... not that hard.
I was also planning on wrapping some around my head like in the movie "Signs" by that dude who used to make good movies. This way the WGI thought police can't infiltrate my warlock brain.

Seriously bros?

http://reformedpastor.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/tinfoil.jpg
Well said brother
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Confucius Permalink
I am sure it will be just like Telluride or Fest 8
Must use CC that was used to pay for tix in order to get wristbands.

No original CC, then you SOL.
Costs too much for too little return on placing tracking device in wristbands.
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Dan615 Permalink
Dan615 So you didnt get a ticket stub to Telluride or Fest 8?
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WasteOfTime Permalink
WasteOfTime As a "tech person" for 20 years I can tell you, 10 ft. is old school. New RFID can be arranged such that triangulation and response time allow a pretty good estimate in a 20,000 sq. ft. warehouse. Enough with the "wooks" too, it's becoming the "W" word for me. It's too mean and lends itself to mean thinking. These tags are just the new hologram, "hard to copy". These guys are printing $200 bills and they want to protect them. Problem is, I can produce an RFID tag in my lair which will return any value, so, I win. I can sit and read everyone's tag walking by in the campground, copy them blah blah. Jamming the readers is trivial too...almost too easy.
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jacksdad Permalink
WHO GIVES A FUCK!!!

STOP OBSESSING OVER STUPID SHIT!!!

It kills me how people go over everything about this band with a fine-tooth comb.

Also, I love when people on here claim they "know" inside stuff about the band.
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd @jacksdad said:
It kills me how people go over everything about this band with a fine-tooth comb.
That's like the quote of the year. Should go on the .net masthead.
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shandin Permalink
shandin Oh,no, they're going to see that I'm at work instead of on the rest of the tour.
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