Recently getting into more and more bands in the genre of Phish. not sure if I wanna take the time and get into the biscuits . should i do it? Is it even worth it?

there is no band like phish, and these guys ain't even close

They're ok. If you go in with your expectations low (expect repetitiveness), then you might find that you like some of their songs. I enjoy Uncivilized Area and The Wind at Four To Fly, personally, but they aren't even near Phish.

they have a song called mindless dribble.

think about it

they just serve to provide background music while you're rolling on X

Whisker Biscuit......hehehehe

@TheArgus said:

how is my comment thumbed down? Disco Biscuit is late 90's street slang for X (and they formed in the late 90's)

I don't think they chose their name by coincidence

not sure... i thumbed it up.... or i think i did... i sure hope i did.

Give a listen and see if you like it. I don't particularly love them, but they have their moments.

If you're looking for suggestions, Widespread Panic and STS9 are mine.

If your looking towards the more electronically inspired music, I particularly enjoy Lotus and STS9. I personally can't stand the voice of Disco Biscuit's lead singer. I find that I can start to get into the rest of their music and then they start singing.

Well... it's difficult with the Biscuits. From my experience, Phish and The Dead bring such a happier loving vibe to a show and people just feed off the love that is coming from the stage and the crowd. I've never experienced such peace and just pure joy at a Phish or a Dead show that I have at a Bisco show. You must go into a Bisco show with a complete different state of mind than you would at a more merrier show. Bisco can get f***ing scary and their crowds can get scary and I know this from experience, not trying to boast just my opinion. Don't get me wrong the Biscuits are a great band BUT I personally need that joyful at home sitting by a fire with friends and family feeling and DB does not bring that. But for some people freaking the f*** out is their thing as it is mine but I want to be around some not so frightening vibes while I'm in that state of mind. Like I said though I do enjoy the DB but mostly on my Ipod.

didnt read the whole thread. but if you think you might like the disco biscuits because you like phish...think again.

I recommend going to one of their live shows. I think its a good time, but its not for everyone. To each their own. Not all fans of the biscuits are grimey sketched out tweakers.

If you're curious, go check them out. I've seen them a pretty good handful of times over the last dozen years or so. They have the potential to either blow you away, make you wonder what the hell you are doing there, or anything in between.

Don't expect it to be phish-like. But chances are you'll see very good musicianship, pretty insane light show, variable songwriting, and poor singing. For a ~$20 show, that's not a bad deal. When they're on, its more than worth it.

IX ---> X

Its pretty obvious who knows what they're doing though with electronic music though. just because people can make an electronic song doesn't mean its good. The real problem is that people don't know what good electronic music is because they've only heard shit, or have the mentality that it's easy. I've been a "real" musician for about 11 years and I think certain electronic music is seriously more powerful than what a "real" instrument could create. There are endless possibilities with artificial sound, why not embrace that and take it as influence? Alot of it is done in ways that are way more creative than you'd think.

replace the Disco Biscuits with Moe. and Ween...

Fully agreed, @MrClean. Not gonna get into a whole debate here, its been beat to death in other threads. If some people want to summarily disregard or dismiss entire genres of music (the way some others might disregard the phish from Vermont) that's their prerogative.

Also, lolbisco

/obligatory

Wow. I'm really disappointed in the amount of tact and general knowledge here. Seems like most are just throwing out insults without giving much reason why. Bisco isn't Phish, not even close. Completly different scene, one I'm not that into but I can get into now and then. I have many friends who are hardcore Bisco fans and they are the farthest thing from spun out wooks just looking to get f***ed up. I admit, I'm not into their vocals or lyrics but I can really get into some of their jams, when they are on. This hate reminds me of the hate many Dead fans had towards Phish before they all jumped ship after Jerry died and ran where...Phish tour.

Check them out yourself man. You'll find no help here on a Phish forum. It's no secret there seems to be some animosity between both groups, for whatever reason. I don't get it. If you wnat any suggestions of shows to check out, PM me. I'll even burn a couple of shows for you once I get back from MPP. Don't drink all the kool aid here. It's good to ask for advice when checking out new music but ultimately the music speaks to/for you, and yourself only.

And FYI. Trey judged a guitar comp back in the mid '90's that Barber was in and loved him so much when Barber used an effect, Trey jumped out of his seat cheering. (this is from the Pharmers Alamanac Vol. 5, I believe) Personally, I'm not a big fan of Barbers, but it might say something that the guy we all adore, found something incredible about him at one point. Just somethign to think about.

@the_Crested_Hogchoker , I guess man. I'm not knocking anyone's opinions at all. Just throwing my 0.02 in.

Edit: And I'll admit I make jokes about DMB all the time, but for the most part it's all in jest. People liek what they wanna like. I know how it feels for people to hate on Phish without really knowing what it's all about. many of my family and friends think it's all just a big drug party full of dirty hippies. Which I guess is true to some extent, haha, but it's for sure not the reason we spend so much time here on the forum discussing Phish. You know what I'm saying?

my favorite band! but lately they have been meh, if you want to get into them just listen to some shows from 99-02

holla, could you name a show from then? I'd like to have one to know it's a good example of a good night of theirs. thanks

Coming late to this thread:

The Disco Biscuits are a decidedly post-Phish, post-Dead band; while late-90's Phish borrowed the (let's call it) developmental logic of electronica/trance/techno - slowly, organically evolving beats under morphing ambient textures and minimalist rhythms - for their acoustic/electric rock, the Biscuits basically play electronica that bears a resemblance to rock music.

Unlike Phish's music, the Biscuits' stuff is pure dance music - they're more closely related to DJ culture than, say, the Dead's traveling freak show. Their music is all about 'tribal' beats, 'primal' energy, real rave-culture stuff. The drugs are different from Phish-lot drugs, just as Phish's late-90's scene differed chemically from the Dead's lysergic heyday.

You can have a really good time zoning out and following the smooth flow of their endless jams. That's what their music is for - hence the central importance of the light show/visuals and the comparative weakness of their recorded music.

Now let's be honest about their limitations.

The Biscuits' vocals are bad. Not 'an acquired taste': bad.

Their songwriting is simplistic and repetitious. This is the biggest deal with 'jam bands': pretty much no Phish-inspired band has a composer with Anastasio's reach (though bands like The Slip certainly have their own strong voices).

Their chops are good but their improvisations lack the sense of wide-open silliness that characterizes Phish's stuff.

You're better off just not bothering with the Biscuits, if you ask me. Try Zappa instead. Or mid-70's electric Miles.

@waxbanks said:

Coming late to this thread:

The Disco Biscuits are a decidedly post-Phish, post-Dead band; while late-90's Phish borrowed the (let's call it) developmental logic of electronica/trance/techno - slowly, organically evolving beats under morphing ambient textures and minimalist rhythms - for their acoustic/electric rock, the Biscuits basically play electronica that bears a resemblance to rock music.

Unlike Phish's music, the Biscuits' stuff is pure dance music - they're more closely related to DJ culture than, say, the Dead's traveling freak show. Their music is all about 'tribal' beats, 'primal' energy, real rave-culture stuff. The drugs are different from Phish-lot drugs, just as Phish's late-90's scene differed chemically from the Dead's lysergic heyday.

You can have a really good time zoning out and following the smooth flow of their endless jams. That's what their music is for - hence the central importance of the light show/visuals and the comparative weakness of their recorded music.

Now let's be honest about their limitations.

The Biscuits' vocals are bad. Not 'an acquired taste': bad.

Their songwriting is simplistic and repetitious. This is the biggest deal with 'jam bands': pretty much no Phish-inspired band has a composer with Anastasio's reach (though bands like The Slip certainly have their own strong voices).

Their chops are good but their improvisations lack the sense of wide-open silliness that characterizes Phish's stuff.

You're better off just not bothering with the Biscuits, if you ask me. Try Zappa instead. Or mid-70's electric Miles.

Agree 100%......This is a perfect description.

If you went in with zero prior knowledge to the fan base of either of these extremely talented bands (with pretty mediocre vocalists that exist only for the fun of having lyrics fans know) and an interest in progressive rock music in any why I am sure you would find a love for both these bands. The beef between the two fan bases is absolutely ridiculous when deep down were all so similar.

OP you asked that question on the wrong site lol. I second @TahoeCraig if you want something new and exciting. I will also add the Werks to your list because I think they are similar to the biscuits but much more enjoyable

Figuring out for yourself whether you like a particular artist is always worth it.