Dubstep is boy band quality music
EDIT: I will still see any Eoto show possible, they're the f***in' shit.
@johnnyd said:
Like postrock? WTF? rock has been around for a while, along with more or less ambient approaches. WTF differentiates post rock from regular rock? The need to identify with something new and cutting edge as opposed to just rock? The need to be that hipster douchebag with his finger on the pulse of everything newer and cooler than what you know?
We are all clearly music fans, and I will trust your judgments. If someone can really argue the merits of splitting hairs to this point, outside of threads like this. My ears are open.
@Potato_Sacks said:I agree that there is a fine line. It seems very ridiculous to over analyze the different sub genres of any type of music. Obviously there is a line to be drawn somewhere, and judging by how deep you guys have gone into it, we don't agree where that line should be drawn. Dubstep is clearly not easy to define. It just seems counter productive to continue creating new names for old ideas. Use some adjectives in front of electronic and I'm sure you could get your point across.Theres a phine line between house/electronic and Dubstep.Thats not really true. It barely makes sense.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to come off as a dick, but I don't even know how to respond to that statement.
Like postrock? WTF? rock has been around for a while, along with more or less ambient approaches. WTF differentiates post rock from regular rock? The need to identify with something new and cutting edge as opposed to just rock? The need to be that hipster douchebag with his finger on the pulse of everything newer and cooler than what you know?
We are all clearly music fans, and I will trust your judgments. If someone can really argue the merits of splitting hairs to this point, outside of threads like this. My ears are open.
I'm not saying I disagree with the above statement, I'm saying it literally doesn't make sense. Here is why:
Electronic music - a huge genre of music, basically at the top tier of categorization. Not only including dance music, but also all kinds of other production and ambient sounds.
House music - a broad subset underneath electronic dance music
Dubstep - a much narrower subset of electronic dance music, who's roots and origins are on a totally separate branch from house music.
The above sentence is like saying: "There is a fine line between red/color and teal."
Or as a musical metaphor: "There is a fine line between folk/Popular music and grunge."
Granted someone can produce a crossover track that might utilize elements of both house and dubstep, but in general they are quite different and easily distinguishable.
My band plays dub reggae with a steppers beat... does that count?Lucky for you, no. You should run away from this thread before it kills all your brain cells.
but for me ...
dubstep is an instant headache
it's true, I tried, it doesn't work for me
It sucks it went mainstream. Really, I used to enjoy dubstep shows, ESPECIALLY EOTO shows, until rave-kids invaded. I went to a Bassnectar and Pretty Lights show last year. Had a blast, got f***ing wasted. Hella bitches. To each his own, ya' know?EOTO KICKS ASS and is the only dub i really listen to.
EDIT: I will still see any Eoto show possible, they're the f***in' shit.
Pretty sure I get a pass from the Mrs. if I can ever hook that up. But actually I'm not sure which team she plays for. Will be seeing her next week and report all findings.
I'm a little bit younger than most of you (I think). I just finished college. Let me tell you, dub step is big, and I HATE dub step. With that said, among the majority of college age kids rap is king. As much as I hate duh step, I feel that without it the only thing kids would listen to is rap/hip-hop. Imagine you sit down with a teenager at a coffee shop or something and strike up a cOnversation. You ask what music they listen to. They say "I listen to rap." or they say "I listen to dub step." which would you have more in common with? If not for dub step rap would be just about all kids would listen to. In a way, the jam band scene and music in general would be totally overruled if not for dubstep, which is kind of the last stand of up and coming music before tap completely takes over.
Don't take my word for it though. Go look at the billboard hot 100
Don't take my word for it though. Go look at the billboard hot 100
@benevolution said:
Help! My girlfriend likes Skrillex!help yourself to another girl, preferably one with ears.
They say, "Oh Phish, isn't that the band that plays 30 minutes of the same song?"To each their own yes, but you've got to be an ignorant moron to listen to a 30 min jam from Phish and say it was 'the same song' I'd probably punch whoever said this to me in the throat.
Mala MixTrying this on for the first time. This is a trillion times better than Skrillex (I can't listen to that shit for a second.)
Not sure how I'd dance to this, but its cool. Thank you to the EDM people on .net for patiently opening this door.
Will try the others you mention as well and report back.
::supposed to be researching schools
:::researches music instead
edit: also, my dogs aren't digging all this bass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAba9Mjoinw
Wowza
Okay so that is killer coming from a dude's mouth and not a computer. Unbelievable.
now i'm picturing @johnnyd, @JayDubya like this:
and this (I think this guy is amazing/hate the music)
edit: also, my dogs aren't digging all this bassOur cats love drum and bass. When we first got them we were listening to tons of that and they'd be tearing ass all over the house. I was a little worried we were gonna drive them crazy, but 3-4 years later, its clear they find it soothing.
I wanna hear a phish dubstep remix. who's with me?Gotta be Carini
What song would you choose?
Hmm........
On the other hand, I drive a turbo VDub that's much more impressive than this crap.
Here's two recent mixes that are really good:
https://soundcloud.com/maxmuzik/resident-advisor-358-dbridge
https://soundcloud.com/mala-essential-mix/mala-essential-mix-on-radio1-13-4-2013
I used to like dubstep, I thought it was fun. Then, I went to an outdoor food truck festival, and they were playing dubstep. All I could hear was the bass and the drum beat, and it was the most simplistic monotonous thing I have listened to. It was then that I realized it was an incredibly simple form of "music". To me now its just a random string of sounds, it doesn't have the emotional background and creativity that makes music music.
despite common belief, there is good dubstep. Check out Burial.YEEESSS!!!
I hate brostep, but Dubstep is really cool. Check out...
Burial
Neil Landstrumm
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how many people in this thread has ever sat dow, set up a musical production software like ableton or logic, came up with ur own sounds, created a sampler device, croped a sample, set the eq's, quantizied the beat, quantizied the sample, added audio effects and alot more. Its actually alot harder than people take it to be. Thats why i respect dubstep/edm artists especially that on top of all of that, they create a whole mix on the spot(just how phish creates jams...on the spot) and gets a whole group of people to dance and rage to their music. I not only resect dubstep.....i enjoy it aswell.Most EDM artists don't actually make their own sounds. Artists like Rusko, Skrillex, etc... all use pre-recorded sounds on already existing software.
Artists like Aphex Twin, Autechre, Boards of Canada, etc... all make their own sounds which requires them to write code for software, since there is no existing software that's able to make the sounds they use.
@Peezy said:I was going to say something like this. I dug a few 'dubstep' tracks when it was popular last year. It's fun and some artists are ok. It's certainly not sustainable in my opinion and I bet you'll see it die off this summer when all the hardcore fans burnout.how many people in this thread has ever sat dow, set up a musical production software like ableton or logic, came up with ur own sounds, created a sampler device, croped a sample, set the eq's, quantizied the beat, quantizied the sample, added audio effects and alot more. Its actually alot harder than people take it to be. Thats why i respect dubstep/edm artists especially that on top of all of that, they create a whole mix on the spot(just how phish creates jams...on the spot) and gets a whole group of people to dance and rage to their music. I not only resect dubstep.....i enjoy it aswell.Most EDM artists don't actually make their own sounds. Artists like Rusko, Skrillex, etc... all use pre-recorded sounds on already existing software.
Artists like Aphex Twin, Autechre, Boards of Canada, etc... all make their own sounds which requires them to write code for software, since there is no existing software that's able to make the sounds they use.
However, I can't hate on it and the younger kids that dig it because, if it's music that get's you off, then go and get off hard. OD on molly if that's your cup o' tea. Isn't getting off on music what we are all into?
Anyhow, I do want to echo @LedZeppelin. My experimentation with electronic music has led to me trying to emulate some of the sounds these artists use in software synth packages. It is quite challenging actually and you learn a lot about the intricacies of audio synthesis in the process. I do actually have great respect for an artist creating a really weird sound just because there's a lot of thought and creativity that goes into making that unique sound, more than you might think. However, if you make a 10 minute track that sounds purely like robots f***ing, I probably wont listen to much of it or dance to it. To some of these pop-'dub'-artists' credit they do make their own sounds. I thought Skrillex was actually one of them even though I know you can buy a lot of that stuff. Look up FM synthesis if you think it's just 'button pushing'.
However, I can't hate on it and the younger kids that dig it because, if it's music that get's you off, then go and get off hard. OD on molly if that's your cup o' tea. Isn't getting off on music what we are all into?
Thank you man. thats how music should be looked at.....NOT how you think it sounds.
@TheStrawman said:
Personally not a huge fan of dubstep, its like a frat boy pissing contest to see who can make the grimiest wobble bass. whompfest. But I do appreciate some of and have grown to love and respect a wide variety of electronic music. I will make one recommendation, if you don't know Flying Lotus then you gotta check the guys stuff out. Hard to put into a box, but the guy is a Coltrane and make off kilter hip hop jazz. His album Cosmogramma is beautiful and probably my favorite album of the last couple years. Each of his albums highlight his growth as an artist.Absolutely what this guy says.. Until the Quiet Comes is a great album as well - FlyLo's latest
Pretty much anything coming off of his Brainfeeder label is worth a listen. http://www.brainfeedersite.com/
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