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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband Out of boredom, I decided to start this. Let's talk about the Halloween shows. Past, Present, and Future. The Musical Costumes. The atmosphere. What your favorite show is and why. What you think the next one will be, if there will be one.























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Hopefully one day I can go to a show
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muchado Permalink
the phish sets surrounding the first three albums are incredible and make for incredible shows on the whole.

the next three albums they did the sets sandwiching the albums are questionable. still, incredible nonetheless.

the settings for the fans for the last three albums are awesome: vegas, indio/festival, & atlantic city

i think next time they should do 'physical graffiti' by led zeppelin. many people people thought that's what they were going to do last time and for good reason, it would be incredible and perfect.

talking heads 'remain in the light' is tops.

Score: 3

Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband I agree with the Remain in Light comment as well as the other comments. I do hope that they place their next halloween at a venue close to me.


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YorkvilleBeerLover Permalink
YorkvilleBeerLover i went to the AC rune in 2010 - it was amazing.
I hope I get a chance to see something like this again.
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Jimmymac03 Permalink
Jimmymac03 I haven't been fortunate enough to be at a Halloween show but The White Album show was always my favorite. I was raised to be a Beatles fan and this was one of the first live Phish shows I had on tape back in the day. This show was a big part of me falling in love with Phish.
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jerryguscia Permalink
jerryguscia Quadrophenia is my favorite.

First time I listened to Remain in Light, I loved it, but hated it. I don't know how, but it happened. I'd keep listening to it over and over, but just there was something I didn't like. When I listened today though, I sat with my mouth agape. It is an incredible set (still, Quadrophenia is my favorite Halloween show and costume [out of '95, '96, and '98, the three I've heard]).
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Mr_Incompletely Permalink
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Mr_Incompletely Permalink
Mr_Incompletely 95 is best Halloween show for me they nailed it.
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muchado Permalink
it's weird, i think 'quadrophenia' is the best album that they've done, just not their version of it if you know what i mean.

their version of 'quadrophenia' is like their version of 'the white album' to me, incredibly ambitious, but the original albums blow them away

with 'remain in the light' and 'loaded' i really love phish's versions, so they are 1 & 2 for me.

i have to admit, i just aborted making a list ranking them because i like all of them
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband I havent heard all of the 95 show. Ill have to get to that than
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband @muchado said:
i have to admit, i just aborted making a list ranking them because i like all of them

Same here
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DanceTheJig728 Permalink
DanceTheJig728 @Jerrytheband said:
I havent heard all of the 95 show. Ill have to get to that than

Do it, it is just plain incredible. The first set is one of my most listened to sets that I have. Also, I don't know if you did the same as me but I put off listening to that for wayyyyy to long, big mistake.
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband I think for the next Halloween show, the band can ether go 2 ways, the Zeppelin route or the prog route. I prefer the later
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DanceTheJig728 Permalink
DanceTheJig728 @DanceTheJig728 said:
@Jerrytheband said:
I havent heard all of the 95 show. Ill have to get to that than

Do it, it is just plain incredible. The first set is one of my most listened to sets that I have. Also, I don't know if you did the same as me but I put off listening to that for wayyyyy to long, big mistake.

edit: Meant to say put off listening to that YEM for so long. Whoops
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband 2013 is going to be THE year
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muchado Permalink
found this 2002 Rolling Stone article this morning that is relevant to this thread:

Phish Dress Up for Halloween
Jam band takes on classics on live CDs
By Robert Margolis
October 22, 2002 12:00 AM ET

For the most recent batch of the Live Phish series, volumes thirteen through sixteen, the Vermont rockers are releasing a set of musical masquerades recorded over the course of four Halloween performances. The band's own versions of the Beatles' "White Album" (which they covered on Halloween, 1994), the Who's Quadraphenia (1995), the Talking Heads' Remain in Light (1996) and the Velvet Underground's Loaded (1998) will be in stores October 29th.

Frontman Trey Anastasio still feels a bit funny about hearing his versions of albums that were major influences in his life. "The whole idea of releasing them has been a little bit painful for me," he says. "I really love all those albums, but, to my ear, they are just lame versions of great albums. When we first started suggesting this release, I was reluctant at first. As cool as it is to do Remain in Light live, you're talking about this seminal record -- it would be like doing Band of Gypsies. Turning on the radio and hearing this might give me a little stomach ache. I was a huge Talking Heads fan. As you can see with my band, they were a huge influence. I'm basically going in the same direction they were -- with horns."

A recent meeting with Tina Weymouth and Chris Franz of the Tom Tom Club -- and formerly the Talking Heads -- calmed some of Anastasio's nerves. "I saw Tina and Chris at the Jammy Awards," he says, "and they came up and said something about how happy they were that we had done it. I had a huge thing for Tina, and I used to go see them all the time when they had this guy who would just hold a big light around. He would project the light and make shadows, and she would have this short skirt on. For her to say that was great."

Part of Anastasio's goal is to serve as a bridge between uninitiated fans and classic rock albums. "If you don't know about Remain in Light or Loaded or whatever," he says, "you should. And for that matter Brian Eno -- everyone should own a copy of [Eno's] Another Green World."

The biggest risk the band has taken with the "musical costume" idea might have been their tackling of the Who's Quadraphenia in 1995. Despite it being a classic record from a guitarist's vantage point, the idea to cover it didn't come from Anastasio. "I had a relationship with that album, certainly," he says, "but that was more of a [keyboardist] Page [McConnell] thing. I wasn't that familiar with that album."

Perhaps the original record that these releases will send fans into stores seeking will be the classic 1970 Velvet Underground effort, Loaded. How tough was it to capture the vibe, let alone the voice, of Lou Reed? "Well, it will always sound bad to me," Anastasio says of his effort, "but I had a great time doing it. I mean you can't sing "Sweet Jane" and have it not be a little like a joke. Why even try? But when we did those albums they were like mirror images -- it scares me a little having it out there."

Each release contains not only the set in which a classic record is covered, but also the rest of the gig's playlist. The "'98" disc features not only classic Phish material but also a raging treatment of Dizzy Gillespie's Manteca.

Phish, after a two-year hiatus, will reunite this winter for a tour that kicks off New Year's Eve at New York's Madison Square Garden.

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muchado Permalink
yikes, also found this 1998 Rolling Stone article about the 'Loaded' cover. The author hated it:

Phish Cover Velvet Underground for Vegas Soiree
Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, October 31, 1998
By Isaac Josephson
November 2, 1998 12:00 AM ET

One would think Las Vegas and hippies would mix like oil and water, but actually, the neon-plated Oasis of Greed has played host to some of the most awe-inspiring performances by many a jam band, Phish included. On one memorable evening two years ago, the quartet capped off an already jaw-dropping show with a forty-five minute encore that included various members of Primus, four Elvises and a dog named Harpua -- the stuff of legends.

Unfortunately, whatever mojo the band had working for them that night seemed to have depleted by the time they returned this year for their much-celebrated Halloween show, where tradition decrees that Phish cover a classic album in its entirety. For the first time since this tradition's 1994 inception, Phish failed to capture the essence of that album, which in this case was the Velvet Underground's 1970 album Loaded.

Phish's Halloween performance -- as explained in the "Phishbill" handed out at the gates -- is a statement, a showcase for what the band sees as a classic record. It's for enjoyment, but it's also for edification, to introduce Phish fans to another great and historical element of rock & roll. While 1994's rendering of the Beatles' The White Album and 1995's version of the Who's Quadrophenia were performed note-for-rockin'-note, Phish proved in 1996 when they covered the Talking Heads' Remain in Light that they could add their own verve and still retain an album's sum and substance. Unfortunately, that didn't happen this year, and the group ended up doing the Velvet Underground a disservice.

The album -- as performed by Phish -- was lively and beautiful and distended, as the band is so affably wont to be. Problem is, that's not the Velvet Underground. The subjects and the sounds that populate Lou Reed's songs -- even on Loaded, which was a relatively upbeat, rocking album -- are burnt out, broke down, and close to the street. These were qualities that Phish failed to convey.

"Sweet Jane," with keyboardist Page McConnell's crystal-clear vocals and rich piano chords, came off a little too ... sweet. Gone were the hoots, strains and chuckles that have made that song a classic. "New Age" -- a sad little love poem to an over-the-hill "fat blond actress" was turned into an anthemic and romantic saga. Only two tracks -- "Who Loves the Sun" and "Sweet Nuthin'" -- held true to the original. Phish executed the former in a concise manner, nailing the sunny harmonies and bitter tone. And the latter, with its cold, redemptive feel, languid vocals and roominess for jamming, was the perfect end to the set.

Of course, this musical misstep was only one-third of the evening's performance. The other two sets that flanked Loaded were classic, if not totally inspired Phish. Highlights included a rarely performed "Sneaking Sally Through the Alley," an especially searing rendition of "Mike's Song," and an atonal jam fueled by a massive glowstick war, where the audience hurled thousands of the cylindrical concert accessories back and forth across the arena while the band jammed in synch.

Perhaps the best testament to Phish and their fans was the performance of the "hit single" "Birds of a Feather." Where at most shows, the radio song would elicit cheers and singalongs from the audience, the folks here were uncannily silent as Phish sped through the first three minutes of Elektra's latest bankable Phish-y moment. Just before the last chorus, however, the band drifted off into a relatively short, but new and inspiring jazzy jam. Then -- and only then -- did the fans start to pogo and cheer. With Phish it's got to be new or it might as well be nothing. At least it keeps both the band and the crowd on their toes.

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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband @muchado said:
yikes, also found this 1998 Rolling Stone article about the 'Loaded' cover. The author hated it:

Phish Cover Velvet Underground for Vegas Soiree
Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, October 31, 1998
By Isaac Josephson
November 2, 1998 12:00 AM ET

One would think Las Vegas and hippies would mix like oil and water, but actually, the neon-plated Oasis of Greed has played host to some of the most awe-inspiring performances by many a jam band, Phish included. On one memorable evening two years ago, the quartet capped off an already jaw-dropping show with a forty-five minute encore that included various members of Primus, four Elvises and a dog named Harpua -- the stuff of legends.

Unfortunately, whatever mojo the band had working for them that night seemed to have depleted by the time they returned this year for their much-celebrated Halloween show, where tradition decrees that Phish cover a classic album in its entirety. For the first time since this tradition's 1994 inception, Phish failed to capture the essence of that album, which in this case was the Velvet Underground's 1970 album Loaded.

Phish's Halloween performance -- as explained in the "Phishbill" handed out at the gates -- is a statement, a showcase for what the band sees as a classic record. It's for enjoyment, but it's also for edification, to introduce Phish fans to another great and historical element of rock & roll. While 1994's rendering of the Beatles' The White Album and 1995's version of the Who's Quadrophenia were performed note-for-rockin'-note, Phish proved in 1996 when they covered the Talking Heads' Remain in Light that they could add their own verve and still retain an album's sum and substance. Unfortunately, that didn't happen this year, and the group ended up doing the Velvet Underground a disservice.

The album -- as performed by Phish -- was lively and beautiful and distended, as the band is so affably wont to be. Problem is, that's not the Velvet Underground. The subjects and the sounds that populate Lou Reed's songs -- even on Loaded, which was a relatively upbeat, rocking album -- are burnt out, broke down, and close to the street. These were qualities that Phish failed to convey.

"Sweet Jane," with keyboardist Page McConnell's crystal-clear vocals and rich piano chords, came off a little too ... sweet. Gone were the hoots, strains and chuckles that have made that song a classic. "New Age" -- a sad little love poem to an over-the-hill "fat blond actress" was turned into an anthemic and romantic saga. Only two tracks -- "Who Loves the Sun" and "Sweet Nuthin'" -- held true to the original. Phish executed the former in a concise manner, nailing the sunny harmonies and bitter tone. And the latter, with its cold, redemptive feel, languid vocals and roominess for jamming, was the perfect end to the set.

Of course, this musical misstep was only one-third of the evening's performance. The other two sets that flanked Loaded were classic, if not totally inspired Phish. Highlights included a rarely performed "Sneaking Sally Through the Alley," an especially searing rendition of "Mike's Song," and an atonal jam fueled by a massive glowstick war, where the audience hurled thousands of the cylindrical concert accessories back and forth across the arena while the band jammed in synch.

Perhaps the best testament to Phish and their fans was the performance of the "hit single" "Birds of a Feather." Where at most shows, the radio song would elicit cheers and singalongs from the audience, the folks here were uncannily silent as Phish sped through the first three minutes of Elektra's latest bankable Phish-y moment. Just before the last chorus, however, the band drifted off into a relatively short, but new and inspiring jazzy jam. Then -- and only then -- did the fans start to pogo and cheer. With Phish it's got to be new or it might as well be nothing. At least it keeps both the band and the crowd on their toes.

This guy knows nothing
Score: 2

iandisoftheworld Permalink
Pissed at myself for being completely too spun to retain any sort of memorabilia from 8.
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jerryguscia Permalink
jerryguscia @Jerrytheband said:
@muchado said:
yikes, also found this 1998 Rolling Stone article about the 'Loaded' cover. The author hated it:

This guy knows nothing
Oh, sweet nuthing...
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Pauggroove Permalink
Pauggroove 1998 is by far my favorite. I feel that since the album is shorter it allows Phish to make it their own, as well as jam on it a bit.
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband @Pauggroove said:
1998 is by far my favorite. I feel that since the album is shorter it allows Phish to make it their own, as well as jam on it a bit.

Same with 1996
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katiecakes Permalink
my favorite cover is 98 when they covered Loaded

BUT 94 had great sets and Harpua from halloween 94 is great, war pigs
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties Next will be hunky dory.

They tend to do albums that they've already covered one or two songs off of and with the bustout of life on mars? Last summer I'd say this is a contender. I also think they would Jill this album. Page doing "oh you pretty things" would kill.
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katiecakes Permalink
@poonutties said:
Next will be hunky dory. They tend to do albums that they've already covered one or two songs off of and with the bustout of life on mars? Last summer I'd say this is a contender. I also think they would Jill this album. Page doing "oh you pretty things" would kill.
I would die a happy woman if this happened

that is my one of my favorite albums of all time

i bet they would kill it on Queen Bitch too

and yes page would totally rock oh you pretty things, it would be perfect
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katiecakes Permalink
"The album -- as performed by Phish -- was lively and beautiful and distended, as the band is so affably wont to be. Problem is, that's not the Velvet Underground."

Isn't that exactly why bands cover other groups material? To put their own spin on it. Seems to me to be the point. Why cover other material and do it exactly as you would hear it from the original band , the fun of it is is to hear an interpretation of it
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phan83 Permalink
phan83 @Jerrytheband said:

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I have this in my center console right now folded in half. It's been there since the shows... I've been meaning to clean my car but... you know...
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband I think they should do The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway by Genesis. I think it would show them being able to play more complicated songs
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me_no_are_no_nice_guy Permalink
me_no_are_no_nice_guy Their version of Remain In Light is what ultimately got me into Talking Heads
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DividedPie Permalink
DividedPie ^ THAT LOOKS RAUNCHY! :o
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband Best version of Helter Skelter ever!!!
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AntelopeSteam Permalink
94 is possibly the best Phish show of all time, its sooooo underrated.
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband @AntelopeSteam said:
94 is possibly the best Phish show of all time, its sooooo underrated.

deffinately
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Frizz Permalink
Frizz 2112. Mark my words. Canada will have an epic Halloween.
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walstib Permalink
walstib The ABB's Filmore East would be rather entertaining.
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband @Frizz said:
2112. Mark my words. Canada will have an epic Halloween.

That would be awesome, but Im still pushing for ether The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway or Larks Tongues In Aspic
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_________________________ Permalink
_________________________ I don't think phish is gonna do Halloween again. But if they do, Genesis would be cool or some Pink Floyd, Animals.

As far as past shows, haven't really listened to much of costumes except for Loaded and Remain in Light, but the first and third sets for the Halloween shows are usually epic. YEM from 95, Wolfman's from 98, the entire 98 first set
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Jerrytheband Permalink
Jerrytheband @_________________________ said:
I don't think phish is gonna do Halloween again. But if they do, Genesis would be cool or some Pink Floyd, Animals, or

I think they'll do it next year
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