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As a long time Phish fan and listener of an eclectic range of music, where does one recommend I start with Umphrey's? Any shows in particular to download?
Dubstep: Whenever I search the internet, I find stuff I don't like. When I hear it blasting from someone's car, I'm in love. Suggestions?
Dubstep: Whenever I search the internet, I find stuff I don't like. When I hear it blasting from someone's car, I'm in love. Suggestions?
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You could ask this guy about dubstep
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Umphrey's are killing it right now, and they just released a comp. titled Raw Sewage (I believe) that's awesome. Dubstep-don't start.
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You should start by never listening to dubstep. As for UM, I had a fantastic time at this show:http://archive.org/details/um2003-08-16.shnf
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7/3/11 @ Red Rocks is a great Umphrey's show. You should also check out 1/21/12.
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Here's the thing about umph. As far as I can tell, especially now, they just kill it every single night. No joke. So I would check out some of the studio work (Anchor Drops, Safety In Numbers or Mantis are great) to get a sense of their repertoire. You know, find some songs you like, then hop on over to archive.org and find a show from 2009-now that has alot of songs you like and then check it out. Not that before 2009 they sucked or anything, I think they have just really come into their own starting in 09. 2004 is also a very good year too though.Some of my personal fav shows are:
2004.05.18
2004.06.11
2004.12.31
2009.04.16
2009.04.17
2010.08.14
2010.02.06 - widely considered (even by the band) as one of their best shows. There's a video on youtube where they discuss the magic of this show and that they aren't really sure what happened on that night
2010.10.07
2011.03.11
2012.03.23
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For some reason, I can never get into Umphs hardcore like I can with Phish, the Dead, or Lotus even. I download their shows, and I am less than blown away. The weird thing is, when ever I see them live, I'm like "damn why haven't I been listening to more of these guys!" Point is: go see them live.
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Honestly most dubstep is only cool when you're high or drunk as shit (even that statement is almost pushing it). As for Umphrey's @Penn42 nailed it right on the head
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Umphreys 4/12/12 was just at that show in Charleston it was great
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Umphreys cover of Cherub Rock is what initially caught my ear with them, not sure how into them I am but have a feeling that if i saw them live instead of just listening to them I might feel differently. All bands should be checked out live. An good album is an accomplishment in and of itself, a good live show defines a band...
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@bakestar08 yes yes my friend. You got to see a band live to really know them or to see if they really have talent. So much trickery I'd possible in the studio these days. That killer guitar solo on a studio album may have had 100 takes to get ut right and even then they still plugged in notes to fix flaws. If that guitarist can nail that solo on stage night after night, you know you got a good band. Umphrey's does this. Just saw them on 3/17/12 and it was absolutely awesome. Great show. Huge energy. And I didn't notice one flub.
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@jimmymac03 i'll do my best to catch them sometime soon. Anyone that can play is worth a shot. Honestly i find it hard to choose between seeing bands I haven't seen before or not as often as Phish and seeing Phish as many times as possible because of the constant climb of ticket prices and travel cost. I see a balance being important but so far this year I have only seen the chili peppers and have Jack White tickets as well as DMB tickets (also taking my dad to see the Beach Boys but that doesn't really count). used to see dave in the early nineties but have some friends that convinced me that the musicianship is so high now that I should go seem them just to be able to have a perspective of seeing them back then and now. Also would never scalp a ticket in my life but have seen offers for up to $500 a piece for the 4 Jack White tix i have for Asheville...that's $2000 i could surely use to cover my entire tour plans and eat well but can't shake the feeling that its just plain wrong to sell a concert ticket for that much money. This is coming from someone who has payed waaaaayyyy to much for tickets before. Sorry for the rant just think you are probably on the same page...
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Also, on the dubstep note (coming from a former frequent club/rave/etc attendee) i can see the draw to kids that are on drugs. Sure it sounds completely different in that frame of mind and mean that sincerely. Just not big on it myself but than again don't eat drugs anymore so...can't honestly plug into a scene like that anymore...not sure what the dubstep moshpit thing is about though, don't feel the same angst in dubstep that metal is famous for where the moshpit are more common so not sure what thats all about...
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@bakestar08 I am on the exact same page dude. The scalping situation just sucks, it sure sounds nice to have your costs covered so easy though. As far as seeing a ton of Phish over other bands I am more the type to spread my concerts out. I love Phish and they are def my favorite but I also love moe and string cheese and Umphrey's and Furthur and etc you get the point. So yeah I with I could see every Phish so but I need spread my funds and time out so I can enjoy all my bands.
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@Penn42 said:
Here's the thing about umph. As far as I can tell, especially now, they just kill it every single night. No joke.
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Yeah dude. Me and electronic music don't mix. I've done tge drugs and been there in person but it is just def not my cup of tea.
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Thanks for starting the thread @joker and everyone who has replied. I've tried getting into UM a few times but they've never stuck. Probably because outside of the music I listen to for school the rest is almost always Phish because more often than not I am critically listening. Don't get me wrong I do a lot of analytical work and listening with Phish as well but I can also sit back and listen to a nice long jam, or a hypnotic perfectly played Reba and let it take my mind away, especially the composed sections. I also love straight jammers like Ghost. Anyways, here's to giving UM another go. I LOVE their studio work, I'll check out some of the live suggestions.
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Funny dubstep story from tonight:This older couple was in the restaurant and the lady had a beet salad as her appetizer. I was walking past the table and noticed that they weren't eating their salads anymore but the lady had a large pile of beets left on her plate. I asked if they were alright and she said it was great but there were just too many beets in it, like dubstep! I started laughing and she even threw out something about Skrillex.
Just thought it was a funny interaction with a nice silver-haired lady about dubstep.
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Check out some of my links in this thread for decent dubstep.There's a link to something called the Mala Mix on soundcloud thats a good start. Search some youtube for Digital Mystics label, mala and coki, benga, skream. Watch the short video of rusko that is posted in that thread...
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This is exactly the feedback I was looking for. Thanks guys.
In return, if you haven't heard James McMurtry, you might like him. Texas folk-rock. Strap them kids in, give 'em a little bit of vodka, and a Cherry Coke we're going to Oklahoma...
Saint Mary of the Woods is a good place to start.
In return, if you haven't heard James McMurtry, you might like him. Texas folk-rock. Strap them kids in, give 'em a little bit of vodka, and a Cherry Coke we're going to Oklahoma...
Saint Mary of the Woods is a good place to start.
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@skillz said: Umphreys 4/12/12 was just at that show in Charleston it was great
Hell yeah man I was there as well, you live around Chuck?
I can't get into dubstep, too electronic for me, sounds too much like robot farts. I can get down on some jamtronica though, love me some Lotus. Some people can't seem to get into them cause they're too electronic, but I think they're the perfect mix, hell alot of their jams it's with the two guitarists and bass with no synth or anything. I can get down with older STS9, but their new direction is not my cup of tea.
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I'm actually going to go against the grain..I've seen Umph twice, at a show in Cleveland back in October and in Detroit back in February. Going into the first show, I had basically a beginner knowledge of them.. I could probably recognize 15-20 songs if they were played. It was a great show, lights were awesome and most of the music I liked (besides some dance-beat songs).
The second time I saw them in February, I hadn't really listened to that much more of their music (besides the show I purchased that I had went to). The second time was fun as well, but not as much as the first - it didn't help that the crowd was one of the worst I've ever seen in terms of rudeness and Detroit is where I see most of my shows. I think it's because I was basically trying to get what everyone else could see out of them and I do get what everyone else sees.
The part that just won't draw me in is a selection of the jams and the dance-rave feel of them. The whole um-tsh um-tsh drum beat for some songs just don't gel with the stuff I wish they did more of. I just don't feel that their jams are that organic and some of these are instead, forced and unappealing to me.
I've never really been good at getting my opinions across in text, but I did the best I could. And yeah, it's just my opinion.
Chris
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@timhortonsman you ate right about the crowd. Drunk and aggressive. At the show here in LA there was even a fight down on the floor that interrupted the show. I was crammed up with the mellow folks in the balcony after fleeing the floor when it got too crammed. Tge band handled tge fight well. They kinds moved away from the front of the stage and brought the music down real low until security got everything in order. Then they jammed into Baba O'reilly. "I ding need to fight, to prove I'm right!"
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Start by being as cool as these kids when it comes to the dubsteps.
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I saw someone previously recommend the Raw Stewage comp that they just released. I'll second that. Some of my favorite Umphrey's shows:10/19/06
11/2/06
7/21/07
7/19/07
10/16/07
10/24/07
2/13/08
4/3/08
6/5/08
10/2/08
4/30/09
7/11/09
All of those shows, I would say, focus much more heavily on their jamming. That is, they aren't very song-based.
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Just an Umphrey's cover i recently did. Not trying to thread hijack, just figured it related.
I have seen Umphrey's 3 times and each time killed! I have tickets to see them in June and am pumped! I haven't really read the thread but the UM podcasts are great! Check them out for a ton of free UM
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So I'm lookin' for some of the UM shows mentioned in this here thread and having some trouble finding 'em (Specifically 6/11/2004). Anyone know a good place to find old school Umph?
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http://archive.org/details/um2004-06-11.remastered.shnf
there ya go
there's TONS of shows on archive.org. for UM and for just about every band that allows live audience taping. (no phish though but we have the spreadsheet for that)
there ya go
there's TONS of shows on archive.org. for UM and for just about every band that allows live audience taping. (no phish though but we have the spreadsheet for that)
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Wow. How could I forget archive? I use that all the time for Dead shows. Thanks man.