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Where to stay in San Fran?

retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet Trying to keep it cheap yet safe? Is san mateo too far away? Any advice is appreciated? Seems like hotels just outside of the city are quite a bit cheaper...
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goatsticks Permalink
goatsticks hostel's are where it's at, meet new people and a lot of them have bars on site...
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mattice5 Permalink
berkeley

east bay....its a short half hour (bart/trolley) ride. and your staying in a sweet college town. tons of mountain climbing outdoors stuff to do in the area
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet Let me add some variables. I am driving down from Seattle. I will have my wife (shes kind of a pussy when it comes to homeless/drugs/hookers/ghetto shit) So I have to keep that in mind when selecting where we stay. We plan on doing the tourist shit during the day and then freaking freely at the BGCA. So I will have a car which I have heard maybe a hindering? I guess my main question is how far away is to far away?
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joyjoy Permalink
There are highway motels in Marin (Travelodge etc.) just over the bridge, 90$ range, not sketchy areas & easy drives post-show (depending on your buzz). Parking at BGCA is not bad at all, SF-wise. I wouldn't want to drive to San Mateo, but it's not really all that far either.
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Skiguy Permalink
Skiguy Look into the Arganot hotel on the water south Wharf nice place kinda spendy but nice! Trolley to the show!
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MiguelSanchez Permalink
MiguelSanchez When I saw wsp in 2000 at the bill graham, we stayed at the motel 6 in china town. Don't stay there. Unless you like amputee hookers and crack heads....
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet @kingsley_zissou said:
What is your budget??
was around 120ish per night, lost my job last week now looking in the 80-120 range

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kingsley_zissou Permalink
kingsley_zissou @retired_from_dotnet. You can get a private room at the Fort Mason Hostel which is right on the bay for that ...and they have parking. Check the HI website.
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muggleballs Permalink
muggleballs I usually stay at the Sheraton 4 Points in San Rafael. It's usually about $90-$130 a night, free parking & not too far from the city (in my opinion at least), right off the 101 & less stressful than navigating the city. The catch is when you drive in then parking fees are a bitch
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23piper Permalink
23piper Some crucial tips: if you stay north of the city (Marin County) then public transportation will suck for you - basically not an option. If you drive there should be parking right in front of the venue underground for a steep fee (probably $20-$25 per night). If you stay in the East Bay (Berkeley or Oakland) try to find a hotel near a BART station (see 511.org). The venue is very,very close to the Civic Center BART station so this could keep things simple and cheap for you. There are BART stations in the Peninsula as well but not in very interesting locations - though you might save some money if you choose to stay in Daly City or South San Francisco - just don't expect to spend any quality time near the hotel. Lastly, there are several reasonably priced boutique hotels near the venue, as well. Just be forewarned that there is a strange phenomenon in SF where some of the nicest boutiques are located in or near the single sketchiest part of town - the Tenderloin. The Tenderloin is actually not very dangerous, and if you are looking to score some crack or an evening with a tranny prostitute, it can be super-convenient. I recommend Hotel Kabuki for a nice, romantic, not-too-expensive and convenient spot. It's not walking distance but there is public transportation to the venue, a quick/cheap cab ride, or parking at both locations, and it's in a clean, safe, quiet and central part of town - so you can't go wrong.
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kingsley_zissou Permalink
kingsley_zissou @23piper when have you ever been able to get a room at the Kabuki for 80-120?? They also charge a resort fee, however, they do have self-parking for under 20 bucks a night! Give me the deets on cheap prices?? I seem to only get to stay there for $150+? The other major plus of staying there would be the free passes to the baths!

@retired_from_dotnet Have you tried to "name your price" on priceline?
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Glenn Permalink
Hostels, and hotels in Daly City are chill. I stay in Daly City whenever I go to outside lands. Hotels within close walking distance of BART
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joyjoy Permalink
Um, fwiw and speaking as a local, there is no reason to pay a dime for parking near BGCC. I've been dozens of times and never had to. Parking on the street is legal and not too hard. I second hotel kabuki though, if you can get it at that price, and of course not driving at all is sweet...
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23piper Permalink
23piper @kingsley_zissou said:
@23piper when have you ever been able to get a room at the Kabuki for 80-120?? They also charge a resort fee, however, they do have self-parking for under 20 bucks a night! Give me the deets on cheap prices?? I seem to only get to stay there for $150+? The other major plus of staying there would be the free passes to the baths!

I regularly receive promos in my inbox from jdvhotels.com and I seem to recall rooms at Kabuki for $130 - $150 a night. For the quality, it's a very good price. But yes, you can find cheaper and remember folks, there is always Muir Woods.

@retired_from_dotnet Have you tried to "name your price" on priceline?
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23piper Permalink
23piper @23piper said:
Some crucial tips: if you stay north of the city (Marin County) then public transportation will suck for you - basically not an option. If you drive there should be parking right in front of the venue underground for a steep fee (probably $20-$25 per night). If you stay in the East Bay (Berkeley or Oakland) try to find a hotel near a BART station (see 511.org). The venue is very,very close to the Civic Center BART station so this could keep things simple and cheap for you. There are BART stations in the Peninsula as well but not in very interesting locations - though you might save some money if you choose to stay in Daly City or South San Francisco - just don't expect to spend any quality time near the hotel. Lastly, there are several reasonably priced boutique hotels near the venue, as well. Just be forewarned that there is a strange phenomenon in SF where some of the nicest boutiques are located in or near the single sketchiest part of town - the Tenderloin. The Tenderloin is actually not very dangerous, and if you are looking to score some crack or an evening with a tranny prostitute, it can be super-convenient. I recommend Hotel Kabuki for a nice, romantic, not-too-expensive and convenient spot. It's not walking distance but there is public transportation to the venue, a quick/cheap cab ride, or parking at both locations, and it's in a clean, safe, quiet and central part of town - so you can't go wrong.
+Steam
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet Its looking more like berkely and close to the Bart is the way to go? I really appreciate the info and conversation! I also wouldn't mind San Mateo hit the terrapin crossroads for brunch or something maybe see phil for free..
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joyjoy Permalink
Terrapin xroads is in San Rafael...
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BajaPhish Permalink
BajaPhish is sf the best city not nyc? there are arguments
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet San Rafael and San Mateo are total opposites hahahaha I kill me...
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kevmojo Permalink
Be sure when you are there to keep referring to the city as "San Fran" or "Frisco".

The locals hate it, which is why I do it.
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Jimmymac03 Permalink
Jimmymac03 @retired_from_dotnet said:
Let me add some variables. I am driving down from Seattle. I will have my wife (shes kind of a pussy when it comes to homeless/drugs/hookers/ghetto shit) So I have to keep that in mind when selecting where we stay. We plan on doing the tourist shit during the day and then freaking freely at the BGCA. So I will have a car which I have heard maybe a hindering? I guess my main question is how far away is to far away?
In my experience San Fran's mass transit is wonderful. Busses. Trains. Gets you there.
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phan83 Permalink
phan83 ^^^ this.

I have some experience getting around SF (lived up there for a couple of years).

There are two BART stations less than a mile away from BGCA.

http://www.bart.gov/

^^^ rocks.
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mattice5 Permalink
In Berkeley

Bobby G's for pizza and beer
Thai Noodle for thai food - #14 is the bomb
Jupiter - drinks, music, etc.....

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Doctor_Ocelot Permalink
Doctor_Ocelot stay in berkeley, there are a ton of cheap hotels/motels right on University, and you could pretty much walk to the Downtown Berkeley BART from your motel
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pzerbo Phish.net Staff Permalink
pzerbo For those utilizing BART, note that the last trains leave around midnight. Which shouldn't be a problem presuming the shows end @ 11-11:30 as the Civic Center station is right around the corner from the venue... but do not pass go, head directly to the station.

Back when the Dead would play the Oakland Coliseum Arena it would always be a trip after the show with what seemed like a third of the crowd literally sprinting across the elevated pedestrian walkway to the Coliseum BART station, jumping the rails or whatever one had to do to make the last train into the city. The looks on the faces of civilians as their previously almost empty train was suddenly jam-packed with Deadheads was priceless. Good times.
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Doctor_Ocelot Permalink
Doctor_Ocelot Last trains leave the city from 1230-1245 depending on which BART stop you utilize. Www.Bart.gov , choose civic center BART to wherever your destination is
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet .net really rocks! Thanks a poop ton for all the info! Can't wait until August!!!
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retired_from_dotnet Hilton Garden Inn near Oakland bridge?? Sounds enticing... but wait Oakland like the rap songs?
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23piper Permalink
23piper @retired_from_dotnet said:
Hilton Garden Inn near Oakland bridge?? Sounds enticing... but wait Oakland like the rap songs?
Yes, like the rap songs. Oakland is awesome AND dangerous. Hipsters love it!
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Doctor_Ocelot Permalink
Doctor_Ocelot DOwntown oakland isn't that bad, when the police are shooting smoke bombs and bean bag guns at the occupy protestors. my friend lives between 19th st and lake merrit and ive walked to her house from BART late at night alot with no problems, just bums hitting you up for dollars and cigs
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet Looks like I'm at the Quality Inn in Oakland Friday and Saturday and then The W downtown for Sunday's shakedown!! Getting pretty excited!
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet Also, I love priceline and the pay when you stay policy... Who is partying in Oakland Fri/Sat??
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PsychoKiller Permalink
PsychoKiller Hotwire near Civic Center, DownTown, Union Square
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ADAWGWYO Permalink
ADAWGWYO The Commodore Hotel downtown San Francisco. The suites are like rooms in the bottle from I Dream Of Genie. Arabic curtains and stuff. We stayed there for Phil and Friends 2000 NYE and it was trippy ;)
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mgiaco Permalink
mgiaco If your wife is sketched out by a lot of things I would NOT reconmend staying in Oakland.

It's also going to suck driving back there after the show and having to deal with the bridge going back and forth. I would definitely reconmend just staying in SF, plenty of decently priced hotels. Or try airBNB like you said, might be able to find a really sweet place

Or try -

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g60713-San_Francisco_California-Hotels.html
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet @mgiaco said:
If your wife is sketched out by a lot of things I would NOT reconmend staying in Oakland.

It's also going to suck driving back there after the show and having to deal with the bridge going back and forth. I would definitely reconmend just staying in SF, plenty of decently priced hotels. Or try airBNB like you said, might be able to find a really sweet place

Or try -

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g60713-San_Francisco_California-Hotels.html
The Bart is close. Won't spend too much time in Oakland. She needs to toughen up a bit anyways. It's only 2 nights then off to the lavish W hotel.
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mgiaco Permalink
mgiaco Make sure to check the Bart schedule and enjoy the hour+ ride home
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Doctor_Ocelot Permalink
Doctor_Ocelot It's not an hour, its like 15-20 minutes to oakland from SF, I live all the way past berkeley(El cerrito) and its like 30-35 minutes for me
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Phaster Permalink
Phaster If you wanna stay on the coast with beautiful scenery and have a car to drive to BART in Daly city there is a hostel at montara light house...best scenery you will find outside the city
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retired_from_dotnet Permalink
retired_from_dotnet Civic center to San Leandro 28 minutes... We can deal with that.. I can still cancel my Oak spot.. if needed.. May just stay at the W all 3 nights
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