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Fest fad coming to an end?

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curtainWith Permalink
curtainWith I was able to hit xponential! Catalpa, and peach fest this summer. Each one was enjoyable and each one had low attendance. Great for me but the promotors must have taken a big loss. Wondering if this festival fad will end soon.

Anyone have any links that give insight on the business side of these things?
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TheBag Permalink
TheBag it ended when Eminem headlined roo
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Blackeydsloth Permalink
Blackeydsloth To be honest I really don't enjoy the "BIG" festivals. its the small ones that count. I'm talking 1,000 and under not 30,000+

I don't get excitement of going to a big fest where I want to see 6 of the 30 bands playing and guess what they play on 3 different stages at the same time. why spend my money. I think more people have figured this out.
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DanceTheJig728 Permalink
DanceTheJig728 @Blackeydsloth said:
To be honest I really don't enjoy the "BIG" festivals. its the small ones that count. I'm talking 1,000 and under not 30,000+

I don't get excitement of going to a big fest where I want to see 6 of the 30 bands playing and guess what they play on 3 different stages at the same time. why spend my money. I think more people have figured this out.

Yep, and that's why Phish fests are the best.
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Blackeydsloth Permalink
Blackeydsloth @DanceTheJig728 said:
@Blackeydsloth said:
To be honest I really don't enjoy the "BIG" festivals. its the small ones that count. I'm talking 1,000 and under not 30,000+

I don't get excitement of going to a big fest where I want to see 6 of the 30 bands playing and guess what they play on 3 different stages at the same time. why spend my money. I think more people have figured this out.

Yep, and that's why Phish fests are the best.
Indeedly doo :)
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CookDog Permalink
CookDog @Blackeydsloth said:
To be honest I really don't enjoy the "BIG" festivals. its the small ones that count. I'm talking 1,000 and under not 30,000+

I don't get excitement of going to a big fest where I want to see 6 of the 30 bands playing and guess what they play on 3 different stages at the same time. why spend my money. I think more people have figured this out.
I can't help but plug my ABSOLUTE favorite festival.. Coming up THIS WEEKEND!!!

EQUIFUNK has gotten some minor exposure on this site, mostly because they hosted camping and lodging plus entertainment for the Bethel Woods run last year.. ( and it was a great success, haven't seen one negative comment or complaint.. Even on PT!!!)

However, the main Equifunk festival is always in August.. Great lineup this year and they are pulling out all the stops for their 5th anniversary this time around.. Festival has been growing steadily but it will always be capped at 1000 attendees.. Oh, and it's all inclusive which makes for a headache free, easily budgeted weekend away..

Check it out... Any .netters gonna be in attendance??

Equifunk Lineup...
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Blackeydsloth Permalink
Blackeydsloth @CookDog said:
@Blackeydsloth said:
To be honest I really don't enjoy the "BIG" festivals. its the small ones that count. I'm talking 1,000 and under not 30,000+

I don't get excitement of going to a big fest where I want to see 6 of the 30 bands playing and guess what they play on 3 different stages at the same time. why spend my money. I think more people have figured this out.
I can't help but plug my ABSOLUTE favorite festival.. Coming up THIS WEEKEND!!!

EQUIFUNK has gotten some minor exposure on this site, mostly because they hosted camping and lodging plus entertainment for the Bethel Woods run last year.. ( and it was a great success, haven't seen one negative comment or complaint.. Even on PT!!!)

However, the main Equifunk festival is always in August.. Great lineup this year and they are pulling out all the stops for their 5th anniversary this time around.. Festival has been growing steadily but it will always be capped at 1000 attendees.. Oh, and it's all inclusive which makes for a headache free, easily budgeted weekend away..

Check it out... Any .netters gonna be in attendance??

Equifunk Lineup...
Oh damn how I wish its in PA have fun we will see you tomorrow :) Dumpstaphunk!!!!
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Phlat_Brim_Kid Permalink
Phlat_Brim_Kid Its probally the insurance costs killing good festies like we had in the late 90's early 2000's! they have to bring in more security and pay a higher premium with causes them to reach out to more mainstream bands for more attendence which causes folks not in the scene or the know to show up and screw it up for the rest of us cuz they dont know how to handle themselves and that drives up the insurance premuims with causes ...........
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mgh2001 Permalink
mgh2001 @Phlat_Brim_Kid said:
Its probally the insurance costs killing good festies like we had in the late 90's early 2000's! they have to bring in more security and pay a higher premium with causes them to reach out to more mainstream bands for more attendence which causes folks not in the scene or the know to show up and screw it up for the rest of us cuz they dont know how to handle themselves and that drives up the insurance premuims with causes ...........
Insurance is relatively cheap. A couple million dollar policy isn't much.
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GBrown Permalink
please god yes let these festivals die!!

festivals were on their way out when bonnaroo started in 2002

i'm serious
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me_no_are_no_nice_guy Permalink
me_no_are_no_nice_guy @GBrown said:
please god yes let these festivals die!!

festivals were on their way out when bonnaroo started in 2002

i'm serious
The traveling festivals were already dead but the big fests were just getting started. What the hell are you talking about?
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Phlat_Brim_Kid Permalink
Phlat_Brim_Kid @mgh2001 said:
@Phlat_Brim_Kid said:
Its probally the insurance costs killing good festies like we had in the late 90's early 2000's! they have to bring in more security and pay a higher premium with causes them to reach out to more mainstream bands for more attendence which causes folks not in the scene or the know to show up and screw it up for the rest of us cuz they dont know how to handle themselves and that drives up the insurance premuims with causes ...........
Insurance is relatively cheap. A couple million dollar policy isn't much.
but it gets expensive when some one dies.
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Blackeydsloth Permalink
Blackeydsloth @GBrown said:
please god yes let these festivals die!!

festivals were on their way out when bonnaroo started in 2002

i'm serious
Really you think so. There are many festivals out there that say differently yes they are not easy to find but I have been to many that are not so commercially popular as Bonaroo, Coachella, Let's see what else um even all good, Wakarusa, Whats the one in Gulf shores... Do I need name more. that are so commercially popular.. Have you been to the Spring Fling, Shakori (not to bad yet) Strawberry Mountain, Trinity Tribal Stomp, Bobolink???? really to say they were out when bonaroo started is not a true staement. Also mentioning Mantra Bash, Angel Jam Josh brother we love and miss you please come home.
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harroldHOOD Permalink
harroldHOOD I kinda can't believe no one addressing the ridiculous idea that music festivals are a "fad"
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Blackeydsloth Permalink
Blackeydsloth @harroldHOOD said:
I kinda can't believe no one addressing the ridiculous idea that music festivals are a "fad"
Festivals have been going on for years the are not a fad. Seems as though people don't realize thaty there are incredible festivals out there that are great excluding the highly popular yuppie fests such as mentioned above by me. Coachella, Bonnaroo, Wakarusa, All Good, Gulf Shores(whatever the name may be) etc..... They really are not a fad I prefer smaller festivals over the bigger commercialized ones happening today. Trust me on this i hae seen a numerous amount and I think Spring Fling takes the cake other than Angel Jam and Mantra Bash these days. Maybe Equifunk There are so many out there that are great and they still rage. Wish caly had some great ones. Unlike High Sierra yeah its fun but gotten so big
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fabolous2203 Permalink
fabolous2203 2008 Rothbury was great, but without proper funding to continue anything past the Dead headlining in 2009. Also without that festival there is no Phish mini reunion, on a small side stage No trey solo acoustic set on the Main stage. Fishman jumping in on Mike Gordons set in the middle of the day.

Shitty festivals are going away, the good ones are being shut down by land deals costing too much, local commerce chambers denying permits. Now we have to live with Electric Forrest. End
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jerryguscia Permalink
jerryguscia I don't wanna see festivals end, it's a great way to open yourself up to new music...or not. At Wanee, I had a great time and enjoyed EVERY band I saw. I saw so many great bands (Hot Tuna, Conspirator, Particle, Dumpstaphunk, etc) and plan to go to Bear Creek to see more (Umph's, New Mastersounds [my friend says they're great], Dumpstaphunk, etc).

Wanee was possibly the best weekend of my life and I don't want to be told,"guess what? It's never going to happen again". Besides, if the festival fad stops, all of the small festivals are going to become WAY over-crowded by people who have nowhere else to go.
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PhilthyAndrew Permalink
festivals will never end, especially the big boys. they are getting bigger and better each year.

festivals WILL end when Ringo Starr headlines Bonnaroo in 2016.
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PhanArt Permalink
PhanArt festivals will never end. they have been going on for over 100 years in America in various capacities. There's no extent to the way they will change and morph to the fanbase, even though Phish fests dont do this :)
Festivals will have issues if local, state or federal gov't ever step in with oversight. i pray this doesnt happen on the federal level, although on the state level, the ones who have to hand out mass gathering permits, they have more jurisdiction and i think it will stay like that for quite some time.
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Kurtzboy Permalink
Kurtzboy The big expensive ones that don't draw people in, won't last. But, there will always be something. Look at the Newport Folk Festival. Been going strong since 1985 (or 1959-1970, and resuming in '85. Whichever you prefer) The good ones will last.
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JLLSU Permalink
JLLSU 18 bar bands all playing their version of China--> Rider.

meh.
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spencur6 Permalink
spencur6 Let us not forget woodstock was a festival...
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JLLSU Permalink
JLLSU @spencur6 said:
Let us not forget woodstock was a festival...
And for every Jimi Hendrix, there was a Sha Na Na.
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mfhgreyboy Permalink
mfhgreyboy @jerryguscia said:
and plan to go to Bear Creek to see New Mastersounds [my friend says they're great]
They are AWESOME!!! I love these guys. One of my top 5 bands to see these days. I hope you enjoy it.

I hope festivals stick around. I love them. Big ones. Small ones. Phish ones, especially.
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BigPimpinNYC Permalink
@mfhgreyboy said:
@jerryguscia said:
and plan to go to Bear Creek to see New Mastersounds [my friend says they're great]
They are AWESOME!!! I love these guys. One of my top 5 bands to see these days. I hope you enjoy it.

I hope festivals stick around. I love them. Big ones. Small ones. Phish ones, especially.
The new mastersounds are dope.

PS for you NE folk, the catskill chill is also an awesome small festival with a great vibe and line-up
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mfhgreyboy Permalink
mfhgreyboy @BigPimpinNYC said:
PS for you NE folk, the catskill chill is also an awesome small festival with a great vibe and line-up
I was really thinking about this, but Peach was just too close to us to pass up.
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YorkvilleBeerLover Permalink
YorkvilleBeerLover I hope this ends dumb festival names as well
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd @curtainWith said:
Wondering if this festival fad will end soon.
I'm no anthropologist, but I'm pretty sure thousands of people would get together to eat, drink, otherwise intoxicate themselves, enjoy music, other forms of art and recreation since, well, just about time immemorial, in probably just about every civilization that ever existed.

I don't see that losing its appeal anytime soon.
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TannisRoot Permalink
TannisRoot is Festeroo still going on?
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TahoeCraig Permalink
TahoeCraig Tell me are you going to burning man?
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Gallium Permalink
Gallium @johnnyd said:
@curtainWith said:
Wondering if this festival fad will end soon.
I'm no anthropologist, but I'm pretty sure thousands of people would get together to eat, drink, otherwise intoxicate themselves, enjoy music, other forms of art and recreation since, well, just about time immemorial, in probably just about every civilization that ever existed.

I don't see that losing its appeal anytime soon.
ding ding ding
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BoomboxMike Permalink
BoomboxMike @jerryguscia said:
I don't wanna see festivals end, it's a great way to open yourself up to new music...or not. At Wanee, I had a great time and enjoyed EVERY band I saw. I saw so many great bands (Hot Tuna, Conspirator, Particle, Dumpstaphunk, etc) and plan to go to Bear Creek to see more (Umph's, New Mastersounds [my friend says they're great], Dumpstaphunk, etc).

Wanee was possibly the best weekend of my life and I don't want to be told,"guess what? It's never going to happen again". Besides, if the festival fad stops, all of the small festivals are going to become WAY over-crowded by people who have nowhere else to go.
Wanee is the absolute shit. A lot of different sounds brought together, but somehow it all works. There are literally no bands there I don't want to see. I will go back every year for as long as they let me, and I'm pretty sure anyone who has been feels the same way.
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jaJunkFood Permalink
jaJunkFood well all I have to say is that Bonnaroo f***ing ruled this year
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eriecanary Permalink
eriecanary @Kurtzboy said:
The big expensive ones that don't draw people in, won't last. But, there will always be something. Look at the Newport Folk Festival. Been going strong since 1985 (or 1959-1970, and resuming in '85. Whichever you prefer) The good ones will last.
Love, Love, Love the folk festival. Hop in a kayak and watch it from the bay! you wont regret it.
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jonstolethings Permalink
jonstolethings Don't have any idea what the first two are. Maybe just because they're small and not a lot of people know about them? I mean you could certainly be on to something but just saying
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GAMEHENDGEPHONICS Permalink
GAMEHENDGEPHONICS It's all about the small festivals. 2k or less, everybody is in it together..you meet everyone..The musicians have a blast...the big ones are getting too hectic.
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KeepTreySober Permalink
Hells yes Summercamp. Amazing festival. Flew there from San Francisco this year just because its my favorite around.
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jonstolethings Permalink
jonstolethings @KeepTreySober said:
Hells yes Summercamp. Amazing festival. Flew there from San Francisco this year just because its my favorite around.
Gone the past 2 years and loved it.
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Kurtzboy Permalink
Kurtzboy @eriecanary said:
@Kurtzboy said:
The big expensive ones that don't draw people in, won't last. But, there will always be something. Look at the Newport Folk Festival. Been going strong since 1985 (or 1959-1970, and resuming in '85. Whichever you prefer) The good ones will last.
Love, Love, Love the folk festival. Hop in a kayak and watch it from the bay! you wont regret it.
Newport Folk Fest last year, was by far and away one of my favorite experiences involving music.
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bedouin Permalink
everyone on here should check out CATSKILL CHILL music fest! it's only 2 weeks away but is my favorite small festi I've been too! this will be chill fest's 3rd year as well as my 3rd year attending and I recommend it to everyone here! great lineup, people and vibes! the fest ground is a summer camp so you can camp or book a bunk house for cheap! plus the fest is only $125 now which is an awesome price for 3 days/nights of great music !!
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huntmich Permalink
@DanceTheJig728 said:
@Blackeydsloth said:
To be honest I really don't enjoy the "BIG" festivals. its the small ones that count. I'm talking 1,000 and under not 30,000+

I don't get excitement of going to a big fest where I want to see 6 of the 30 bands playing and guess what they play on 3 different stages at the same time. why spend my money. I think more people have figured this out.

Yep, and that's why Phish fests are the best.
This is why Phish festivals are different. The best part about multi-band festivals is finding that sick act that you've never heard of who rocks your f***ing brains out.
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DanceTheJig728 Permalink
DanceTheJig728 @huntmich said:
@DanceTheJig728 said:
@Blackeydsloth said:
To be honest I really don't enjoy the "BIG" festivals. its the small ones that count. I'm talking 1,000 and under not 30,000+

I don't get excitement of going to a big fest where I want to see 6 of the 30 bands playing and guess what they play on 3 different stages at the same time. why spend my money. I think more people have figured this out.

Yep, and that's why Phish fests are the best.
This is why Phish festivals are different. The best part about multi-band festivals is finding that sick act that you've never heard of who rocks your f***ing brains out.

I hear where you're coming from but I love the feeling knowing everybody is there for one band and one band only. Makes for a much better sense of community.
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beanholestatus Permalink
beanholestatus @DanceTheJig728 said:
@huntmich said:
@DanceTheJig728 said:
@Blackeydsloth said:
To be honest I really don't enjoy the "BIG" festivals. its the small ones that count. I'm talking 1,000 and under not 30,000+

I don't get excitement of going to a big fest where I want to see 6 of the 30 bands playing and guess what they play on 3 different stages at the same time. why spend my money. I think more people have figured this out.

Yep, and that's why Phish fests are the best.
This is why Phish festivals are different. The best part about multi-band festivals is finding that sick act that you've never heard of who rocks your f***ing brains out.

I hear where you're coming from but I love the feeling knowing everybody is there for one band and one band only. Makes for a much better sense of community.
have you attended any other festivals? grassroots for example has been going on since 91 and i feel that place has really positive vibes and a definite community.
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dstee009 Permalink
festivals started dying in 07. in 06 there were almost 300 large multiband festivals with nationally known lineups. anyone remember those early 2000's relix festival guides? everything slowed down when the housing bubble broke. it has nothing to do with music or bands or love of music. purely economics. promoters no longer are willing to take that kind of a hit unless it is a sure thing. most festivals are not sure things.
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PhishPhan_CT Permalink
PhishPhan_CT i'm just sick of a lot of festivals because typically, not all the bands you wanted play, and anything other than phish and a couple artists i just CANNOT STAND.....also, too many weird people on things other than like feasible drugs like l, molly, boomers, bud....not f***in coke, oxys, heroin, and pills.....also, cuz the venues f***in BLOW and security can SUCK MY DICK....best festival i have ever been to was less than 2,000 people way up in VT at MANIFESTIVUS...it's run by toubab and cosmic krewe (who trey played with back in the day) on a small small small farm by the guitarist of toubab and his name is David Pransky.....NO SECURITY....only rule no hard drugs, no nitrous oxide, and no glass bottles.........BEST FESTIVAL EVER.....they got me going back every year till i die!!!!!
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Gandalf Permalink
Gandalf @jerryguscia said:
Wanee was possibly the best weekend of my life and I don't want to be told,"guess what? It's never going to happen again". Besides, if the festival fad stops, all of the small festivals are going to become WAY over-crowded by people who have nowhere else to go.
Agreed, Wanee was unbelievable and the Suwanee Music Park is an unreal venue. I cant ever see anyone getting tired of attending a festival there. I'll definitely be hitting it again this april. Hopefully phish will play another festival as well, superball was the bees knees.
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phan83 Permalink
phan83 Let's just focus here... when is fest X gonna be announced?
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