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Phish.net Beer Lotto round 2!

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flatbottomfrank Permalink
flatbottomfrank Hey Pholks! Incase you missed out @Jaydubya started a Beer lottery on .net. I was lucky enough to be the big winner of the first round and so now I will host round two. Hopefully we will be able to keep this going month to month so if you want in here are the basic rules. If you are new to the lotto you must sit out one round (not be a possible winner), but you must send beer to the winner. This rule is for two reasons, one it is to ensure that you will participate and ship beers, (if you don't ship then you will be blacklisted for future lotterys). Second part is to give those who have already participated and shipped brews a better chance at winning and not to be disgruntled. So two winners will be chosen out of the participants, winner #1 gets to choose 2/3rds of participants to ship him/her beer. Winner #2 gets remaining 1/3 of participants to ship beers. Winners are chosen from a random number generator. Those shipping beer must ship a minimum of one bomber of local beer from their area. The idea is that the winners receive beers they can not find in their region, especially highly coveted one offs and brewery select beers! Once you have participated and shipped beers you are in the clear for future winnings!

This next Lottery will close on midnight of October 15th, and the drawing will happen at 12:00pm CST on October 16th. This way the winners should start receiving brews around Halloween! It is the responsibility of the winners to be in contact with other participants as far as arranging shipping methods and letting others know what you like, can or can not get etc...

Remeber in no way are the members of Phish.net, or Phish.net itself held responsible for any actions here, and of course you got to be 21 to participate!

If you want to be "In" just add a comment to this thread saying "Im In". You may also add where you are located and some of the brewers in your area!

In the end, at some point everyone should win! And we can keep this up as long as everyone who participates continues to ship beer. Do not get involve if you don't think you can handle the costs of a few bombers and the 10-15 bucks it costs to ship! Remember if you don't ship you are out!

Im sure I have forgotten some minor details that we can hash out in the upcoming few weeks, but these are the basic rules of how the game works. Good luck!
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flatbottomfrank Permalink
flatbottomfrank So I am In, but since I am hosting I will only be shipping. The beers I already have reserved for the winner are 2012 COOP Oak Aged Barleywine, 2012 Choc Triple, and 2011 Marshall El Cucuy
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Harry61991 Permalink
I still need to ship mine to you from the last lotto, but I'm in. And don't worry I'm good for it.
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golden_gorilla Permalink
golden_gorilla I missed the highly coveted one off part last round. I shipped a very local but standard seasonal.

I'm in.
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YorkvilleBeerLover Permalink
YorkvilleBeerLover I'm in - shipping your gREEN fLASH TOmorrow!
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nematode Permalink
nematode Im in as well, about to bottle the same brew I sent to @tripsforjoeg but added an extra oz. of hops to the secondary fermenter for some nice dry hoppage.
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chrism27 Permalink
I'm in.
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pjstarr86 Permalink
pjstarr86 Can Canadians participate? eh
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theesloth Permalink
theesloth iminiminiminimin
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MrMurph Permalink
MrMurph So can people win back to back rounds?
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mavisdavis Permalink
In...great idea, sorry to have missed the last one....anyone try the new lagunitas fractal ipa? Nicely done low alcohol, stinky ipa...love those west coast brews!
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dRStone Permalink
dRStone I'm still in
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FluffyAntelopeHead Permalink
FluffyAntelopeHead I'm in, again. Just sent out bomber of local brew on Friday
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JLLSU Permalink
JLLSU In (unlike Matt Flynn)
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd I'm in and still owe you. No fears, package shipping this week.
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JayDubya Permalink
JayDubya Oh my god, I'm in!



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KimboSlice Permalink
KimboSlice can i get an official rules on this thing. are we supposed to be shipping bombers? and how many bottles are we expected to send?
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DJPhresh Permalink
DJPhresh I'm in there like swim wear ~
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PhishAllDay Permalink
im in, and new this round.
local in my area is troegs, weyerbacher, stoudts, fegleys brew works. also access to lots of 22oz bottles.
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MrMinersBrother Permalink
MrMinersBrother @PhishAllDay said:
im in, and new this round.
local in my area is troegs, weyerbacher, stoudts, fegleys brew works. also access to lots of 22oz bottles.
Troegenator FTW!! Love that stuff

@KimboSlice...Send what you want duder. I sent 4 local bottles plus a Bomb 22ozer. Granted it cost me nearly $30 after shipping but I did it bc I wanted to rep Western New York (and brooklyn b/c I love six point). Send what you feel comfortable with. Winner is not allowed to complain.
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birmy Permalink
birmy In if I can
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flatbottomfrank Permalink
flatbottomfrank Canadians are cool. Send what your comfortable, if its just one Bomber make it a special one. I think we should make it winners cant win back to back, and maybe even not be eligible to win for like three rounds. But we should have further discussion on that. I'm not one for having too many rules. The only rules I see that should be highly coveted is that every new round first timers have to ship once to prove they really are "in" before eligible for a win. And it surely isn't fair for someone to win back to back. Probably a good idea that the #1 winner automatically be the one in charge of the next round lotto, that way makes it impossible for back to back wins. We can disuss how soon a winner can be eligible to be back in the running to win again. Another nice idea is to send a little note with the beers, that way we might get to know each other better, and know exactly who sent what.
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flatbottomfrank Permalink
flatbottomfrank The Ins so far:
1. @Harry61991
2. @golden_gorilla
3. @weekapaug19
4. @MrMinersBrother
5. @mikeDNYC
6. @nematode
7. @chrism27
8. @pjstarr86
9. @theesloth
10 @mavisdavis
11. @dRStone
12. @FluffyAntelopeHead
13. @JLLSU
14. @johnnyd
15. @JayDubya
16. @DJPhresh
17. @Recursivevirus
18. @PhishAllDay
19. @mattbillionaire
20. @SlamboMartinez
21. @birmy
@KimboSlice???
@MrMurph????

couple of you didnt actually say your in? Your not "out" yet got a couple weeks, so just reply back "In" if you want. As we get closer, and discussion continues, we can maybe hash out some actual rules, but I think its worked fine so far. Pretty much based on the honor system, and also obviously no one is gonna mandate that you send 50 bucks worth of beer. Send what you can. Remember that when you send to someone, when its your turn to win, probably gonna get back at least as much as you sent out, per person. The great part is only once a month do you have to send beers, but when its your turn to win you get back more than you ever have to send, so in the end everyone will at some point be getting a nice stash of bad ass beers!
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weekapaug19 Permalink
I think that the winner of the last round MUST be in the next round or something like that so people don't win and disappear.
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Recursivevirus Permalink
Recursivevirus I guess I should have clarified. It's on like donkey kong = I'm IN.

I think we should do this once every other month or 3 months. I definitely can't afford to do it every month.
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nematode Permalink
nematode Before we begin round 2 I'd like full reports from the previous winners. Maybe the reviews deserve their own threads, @flatbottomfrank and @tripsforjoeg?
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flatbottomfrank Permalink
flatbottomfrank @nematode said:
Before we begin round 2 I'd like full reports from the previous winners. Maybe the reviews deserve their own threads, @flatbottomfrank and @tripsforjoeg?
So far I have reviewed everything I have tried. A few things are being put away for a later date, see how they age. So could be a while before they are cracked open. Ive only received 5 of 15 so far, but the ones I have got are very nice, and everything except one beer has been top notch exceptional.
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golden_gorilla Permalink
golden_gorilla I think prior winners should be allowed to win right away. If you have to ship at least once to win, then you have paid into the game. It makes sense that if the winner runs the next round, they have to sit that one out, but I think that should be it. Multiple wins isn't unfair, because it is random.

And new players should be given the option to send beer to one of the last round winners to be eligible to win in their first contest. If their beer arrives by the draw, they are eligible like everyone else who has shipped.
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flatbottomfrank Permalink
flatbottomfrank @golden_gorilla said:
I think prior winners should be allowed to win right away. If you have to ship at least once to win, then you have paid into the game. It makes sense that if the winner runs the next round, they have to sit that one out, but I think that should be it. Multiple wins isn't unfair, because it is random.

And new players should be given the option to send beer to one of the last round winners to be eligible to win in their first contest. If their beer arrives by the draw, they are eligible like everyone else who has shipped.
This is a great idea. Except somehow we must have a moderator every lotto, so last winner makes for good host of next lotto. I like the new player ideas. this is how we get it done, thanks GG
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mavisdavis Permalink
Here's a vote for the first timer buy in rule should it be considered. Plenty of great Mass brews to go around. We're in the midst of an historic beer growth and distribution period. Glad folks are keen to it. Just say when and where. Is Pretty Things available to those beyond New England?
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MrMinersBrother Permalink
MrMinersBrother @golden_gorilla said:
I think prior winners should be allowed to win right away
Seriously? Were making newbies buy in but people can win back to back? Doesn't seem right.

If 15 ppl shipping you free heady beer isn't enough for 2 months then you have a drinking problem and should probably take it easy.

Put down that 9.3% double bock and pop a Coors light.
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JLLSU Permalink
JLLSU @weekapaug19 said:
I think that the winner of the last round MUST be in the next round or something like that so people don't win and disappear.
I feel just the opposite, if I win I should be excluded from the next round.

Spread the love (at least for a month).
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birmy Permalink
birmy How big is this going to get? I have an Imperial Stout with someones name on it :) I would love to get 20 different beers wow thats a dream. I will have to go get a garage fridge @joonze
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golden_gorilla Permalink
golden_gorilla @MrMinersBrother said:
@golden_gorilla said:
I think prior winners should be allowed to win right away
Seriously? Were making newbies buy in but people can win back to back? Doesn't seem right.

If 15 ppl shipping you free heady beer isn't enough for 2 months then you have a drinking problem and should probably take it easy.

Put down that 9.3% double bock and pop a Coors light.
Just my opinion. A back-to-back win won't be possible with the winner running the next round, but I would rather accept the 0.16% chance of a repeat win than have rules about how long the winner must sit out. Plus, what keeps the winners around and buying?

The fair "everybody wins" idea only works if you get a fixed number of people to agree to a fixed amount of time.
For example, 12 people agree to play for 12 months. Everyone ships 11 times and wins once.
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MrMinersBrother Permalink
MrMinersBrother @golden_gorilla said:
@MrMinersBrother said:
@golden_gorilla said:
I think prior winners should be allowed to win right away
Seriously? Were making newbies buy in but people can win back to back? Doesn't seem right.

If 15 ppl shipping you free heady beer isn't enough for 2 months then you have a drinking problem and should probably take it easy.

Put down that 9.3% double bock and pop a Coors light.
Just my opinion. A back-to-back win won't be possible with the winner running the next round, but I would rather accept the 0.16% chance of a repeat win than have rules about how long the winner must sit out. Plus, what keeps the winners around and buying?

The fair "everybody wins" idea only works if you get a fixed number of people to agree to a fixed amount of time.
For example, 12 people agree to play for 12 months. Everyone ships 11 times and wins once.
That would be the Socialist Phish.net Beer Lotto.

Both winners sit out one month, if they so choose they can still send beer but that would be up to them. Then after one month, if they want they can enter to win again.
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golden_gorilla Permalink
golden_gorilla @MrMinersBrother said:
Both winners sit out one month, if they so choose they can still send beer but that would be up to them. Then after one month, if they want they can enter to win again.
I have no problem with this idea.
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YorkvilleBeerLover Permalink
YorkvilleBeerLover Frank I still have your beer sitting in my desk - been a hectic week. I was out of the office for a few days. I will ship on pay day 10.5 - still have the trio of Green Flash sorry for the delay
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chrism27 Permalink
Just had an awesome lunch with my wife at my local watering hole where they tapped Pliny the Elder at noon. Just a fantastic beer. Wish they had that around more often. So, we had lunch at the bar and I overheard a couple next to us talking about the shows at Bader field. Ofcourse I interrupted and started up a conversation about Phish and hear the guy has over 300 shows under his belt since 1989 and he was one of the original tapers at shows. Cool guy, full of Phish nerdery. I asked him what was his favorite show out of the 300 he's been to and he said the Wormtown show from Amsterdam. He has cool stories of the early days where Mike and Fishman crashed at his place after some shows and in hotels on the road. Cool lunch! Nice start to my birthday weekend!
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Recursivevirus Permalink
Recursivevirus @chrism27 said:
Just had an awesome lunch with my wife at my local watering hole where they tapped Pliny the Elder at noon. Just a fantastic beer. Wish they had that around more often. So, we had lunch at the bar and I overheard a couple next to us talking about the shows at Bader field. Ofcourse I interrupted and started up a conversation about Phish and hear the guy has over 300 shows under his belt since 1989 and he was one of the original tapers at shows. Cool guy, full of Phish nerdery. I asked him what was his favorite show out of the 300 he's been to and he said the Wormtown show from Amsterdam. He has cool stories of the early days where Mike and Fishman crashed at his place after some shows and in hotels on the road. Cool lunch! Nice start to my birthday weekend!
Happy Birthday!! I would love to try Pliny the Elder.
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weekapaug19 Permalink
@JLLSU said:
@weekapaug19 said:
I think that the winner of the last round MUST be in the next round or something like that so people don't win and disappear.
I feel just the opposite, if I win I should be excluded from the next round.

Spread the love (at least for a month).
I just reread what I wrote...meant to say you must be in but can't win to give others a better shot at winning
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chrism27 Permalink
@Recursivevirus said:
@chrism27 said:
Just had an awesome lunch with my wife at my local watering hole where they tapped Pliny the Elder at noon. Just a fantastic beer. Wish they had that around more often. So, we had lunch at the bar and I overheard a couple next to us talking about the shows at Bader field. Ofcourse I interrupted and started up a conversation about Phish and hear the guy has over 300 shows under his belt since 1989 and he was one of the original tapers at shows. Cool guy, full of Phish nerdery. I asked him what was his favorite show out of the 300 he's been to and he said the Wormtown show from Amsterdam. He has cool stories of the early days where Mike and Fishman crashed at his place after some shows and in hotels on the road. Cool lunch! Nice start to my birthday weekend!
Happy Birthday!! I would love to try Pliny the Elder.
Thanks! Pliny is a great great beer. The pinnacle if you ask me. Great citrusy hop in a west coast way with unbeleivable balance and smoothness.
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flatbottomfrank Permalink
flatbottomfrank Sounds like a good number of folks agree #1 winner bacomes moderator for next round, and has to ship. Once they do that they are back in. I'll say #2 winner is eligible right away. And if newbies want to ship to prior winner then they are eligible. This all seems fair. I also believe if you win you should stick around for at least two or three rounds just to be a good sport. Im in for as long as it goes.
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birmy Permalink
birmy I am excited to send my first its going to be a............
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