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Versions of Runaway Jim that should be on the jam chart

DriedupGoliath Permalink
DriedupGoliath I'm listening to 12/28/97 right now because it's the last show of the '97 New Year's Run I haven't listened to yet, and came to the thermonuclear version of Jim in the first set. It's 14 minutes, and incredibly funky and propulsive. It's a jam that moves so quickly- it ends so fast and covers so much ground in only 14 minutes. To my chagrin however, I noticed that it's not on the Jamming Chart for Runaway Jim.

I also noticed that my absolute favorite version of Runaway Jim, the Japanese robot monster from 6/16/00, is not on the list either. Quite simply, this Jim jam is one of the most original Phish jams they ever did. I can't really think of a jam where they cover this territory. Love it, but it's not on the jam chart. Who should be talked to to amend the Jim chart?
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Roofless_Sheds Permalink
Roofless_Sheds good calls, dude, both of 'em. excellent sleuthery.
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd
Guide to the Jamming Chart for "Runaway Jim"
Jesse Appelman is responsible for most of the contents of the Runaway Jim chart. After its publication in The Phish Companion, 2d ed, in 2004, the chart was imported into the site in 2011 by Philip Harrison (@Dog_Faced_Boy) and updated by him and Charlie Dirksen (@Icculus).

The purpose of the jamming tune charts is to include exceptional versions, including versions that feature a lot of teases of other songs in the jam segment; are unusually improvisational; and/or are recommendable for a reason that makes them notably different from a "standard, typically great" version. This chart has some versions in it that are not that "exceptional" in the broad expanse of Phish history, but they may still be noteworthy in light of versions occurring within the year in which they were performed.

If you believe this chart should be appended with a particular version, please post about WHY you feel that way in the Phish.net Forum (addressing it to @Icculus), or simply email charlie @ phish.net. Thank you.
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TheEmu Phish.net Staff Permalink
TheEmu If you believe this chart should be appended with a particular version, please post about WHY you feel that way in the Phish.net Forum (addressing it to @Icculus), or simply email charlie @ phish.net.

EDIT: First part having already been done.
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DriedupGoliath Permalink
DriedupGoliath d'oh, should have actually read that part of that chart. I feel dumb.

So, @Icculus, any chance these amazing versions of Runaway Jim could be added to the jam chart? I want more people to know about them. My reasons for their inclusion are listed in my OP.
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Dog_Faced_Boy Phish.net Staff Permalink
Dog_Faced_Boy Just an FYI - there are a number of quality versions of Runaway Jim, David Bowie, Stash, Split Open And Melt, Run Like An Antelope, Bathtub Gin, and Down With Disease that are not currently on the Jamming Charts. Charlie, myself and others have been creating Jamming Charts for well over a year now, in many cases for songs that did not have charts in "The Phish Companion 2" - songs like Waves, Sand, BDTNL, Taste, etc. The charts for the songs I mentioned above did have charts in TPC2. When we created charts for the online version, we simply plugged in the chart from TPC2 and updated it for 2004 and 3.0. Since then, I have been aware that some of these "Old" charts had left out some quality jammed versions, for whatever reason. So my goal, once I finish one last "New" chart (Llama) is to go back and update these "Old" charts to include versions like the ones you mentioned, and things like 7/21/97 Gin, or 11/7/91 Bowie. Please just be patient, the Bowie and Runaway Jim charts are next on my radar.

Phil
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itsice88 Permalink
Almost every quality jam from Japan 2000 that isn't from Fukuoka is missing from the jam charts.
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nichobert Permalink
nichobert That Jim is the most quality jam that isn't from Drum Logos. Destroys both DWDs and the Tweezer> Bouncing
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