my guess is they will keep going up until day of, start of show

They will not go down much at all, only the crazy ones listed for like 1,000 will go down, to about 250$, its a tuff one, goodluck

Whats the going rate for the other nights right now?

@PhishDicks said:

Non NYE = $80.35

Unsure about nye

Thanks. NYE should be +$10.

@johnnyd said:

Whats the going rate for the other nights right now?

For 12.29 it looks like approximately $190/ticket to get fairly decent 100s. To just get in the building it looks closer to $150. These numbers do NOT account for stubhub fees, tax, etc.

12/28 - Priced from: $115.00 USD 1,331 tickets left
12/29 - Priced from: $135.00 USD 1,477 tickets left
12/30 - Priced from: $146.99 USD 920 tickets left
12/31 - Priced from: $240.00 USD 2,053 tickets left

NYE is not going down and appears to be more then the last 2 years. The same seats in 2010 that were in the low $200's, were in the low $300's last year and now in the $400's this year.

Now is the time to buy, unless they are truly outrageous as noted above.

@me_no_are_no_nice_guy said:

12/28 - Priced from: $115.00 USD 1,331 tickets left 12/29 - Priced from: $135.00 USD 1,477 tickets left 12/30 - Priced from: $146.99 USD 920 tickets left 12/31 - Priced from: $240.00 USD 2,053 tickets left

I wonder why the 30th is so low in # of tickets, people holding out for the NYE Tickets. If scalpers scooped up all nights evenly and even more for NYE, it would make sense, I don't get why 12/30 is so low, or maybe the answer is that FANS scalp the NYE tickets just as much? Thoughts?

@johnnyd said:

@HARRYHOOD213 said:

NYE is not going down and appears to be more then the last 2 years. The same seats in 2010 that were in the low $200's, were in the low $300's last year and now in the $400's this year.

Its only fair, they put a lot of money into the renovations. wait, wut?

I am talking the lower bowl prices. I think its just people getting greedier by the year.

@johnnyd said:

I gotcha, I was just kidding. Obviously the scalpers don't need to recoup any of the capital investments in the renovations.

I was only responding to the "wait, whut".

The scalpers need to recoup the capital investments in the GA floor tickets that they scooped up and can no longer sell by the row for even more! Ha ha.

That certainly is an outlier there.

@HARRYHOOD213 said:

@me_no_are_no_nice_guy said:

12/28 - Priced from: $115.00 USD 1,331 tickets left 12/29 - Priced from: $135.00 USD 1,477 tickets left 12/30 - Priced from: $146.99 USD 920 tickets left 12/31 - Priced from: $240.00 USD 2,053 tickets left

I wonder why the 30th is so low in # of tickets, people holding out for the NYE Tickets. If scalpers scooped up all nights evenly and even more for NYE, it would make sense, I don't get why 12/30 is so low, or maybe the answer is that FANS scalp the NYE tickets just as much? Thoughts?

That's simple. Same reason real phans found 12/30 MUCH easier to purchase than any other night. The fact that its a Phish show (as opposed to any other event) means NOTHING to the scalpers, so the idea of attending a full 4 night run is meaningless to their machines. 12/28 is a Friday night and 12/29 is a Saturday night, and statistically these listings are in higher demand. 12/31 is a Monday night, but it's also a holiday (NYE at that). Scalpers have less interest in picking up tickets for a Sunday night before the corporate folk (who can actually pay for scalped tix) have work.

This really doesn't surprise me... F*ck the man!

@cactoid said:

Keep refreshing for good guy greg who lists NYE at face on stubhub just to see how fast it goes. I have seen it.

What is he like a robin hood? Has to go within seconds or minutes.

bump

pulled the trigger on nye, cant miss it this year. Might go to one more night if i can find something reasonable on ebay. Luckily i found a decent deal on ebay for nye. If you consider decent not paying extra stub hub fees out the ass a "decent deal". Either way ebay's still getting the cash. Such a F*cked up system and it needs to change. Extremely unreasonable. You would think a band worth of raising a banner for in the garden could find a way to cut out the scalpers. Ticketbastard is a monopolistic black hole.

Coming from a person who is always in my hometown on NYE weekend (my hometown is 20 min outside manhattan) i can easily say i hope they never play MSG again. Friggen demand is way too high. It's a scalpers dream.

@Drgordy said:

Behind the stage 100s dropped to around $250 last year. I doubt you will be able to score them at that price this year. There is still a huge demand for tickets. I suspect that prices have stabilized by now and will start to go up in price in the next week.

I'd buy now, actually I would have bought a while ago. You can get price alerts set to you I believe, if you're willing to risk it.

I completely agree. At this point in the game, the prices are only going to go up. Supply has decreased as people have made their sales/trades, and other people are now willing to be spending more.

If you don't want to wait for another re-release, or you don't want to get to the box office when it opens on New Years day, you're pretty much stuck with the stubhub cost as of now.

Its a sad state of affairs with these tickets yall but we must stay strong...There is a huge factor that "fans" are scalping a ton of PTBM tickets this year...IMO I think its because of how broke we all are this year and the promise of big bucks are causing otherwise dedicated fans to make the decision to either make a quick load of cash on their extras from lotto to pay for the trip itself or just taking the blessing that is a filled lotto request and turning it into cash for the holidays... I can see how tempting that would be but honestly it sucks a lot of people put in for the max amount for all four nights just to sell their extras at a huge mark up. This was a premeditated decision...
Scalpers killed us in the TM onsales to a point that I called TM enough to where they not only admitted that they own 2 of the biggest scalper resale websites but said that they have no way of combating the scalper bots, and will not cancel orders of tickets even with solid proof they are being scalped b/c even though their purchase agreement states that tickets will not be resold for capital gain, they actually encourage resale through their sites. I even got a cease and desist email! funny to me... With that said there will be at least one more re-release through TM as well as day of the show possibly(didn't see much of this last year with the multiple re-release though so...)
Not to thread jack but does anyone here think that will-call only lotto tickets would be a deterrence (say for MSG box office opens at 3pm instead of 5pm with the doors being at 6pm) to fans scalping lotto tickets? Then they would have to stand out front and actually have to ask for such a high price face to face with other fans, which I think would end up in them getting lowballed so hard they would either have to sell said ticket for face or possibly just miracle someone in!
To close I will say that I do empathize with those in financial dire straits (I'm one of em!) but do not sympathize or tolerate scalping...hell I snitch em out to be honest and wish more people did too. We will never be able to control Ticketbastard but we can sure as hell police ourselves a little better. I'm not saying don't buy a NYE ticket if you can afford it, I would but can't. Just saying that if you are going to drop that much cash think about why you are having to do that and try to always act accordingly in the future i.e. sell that extra for face to a fan!!!!!!!!!!! And don't let the promise of summer tour get you so excited you overpay for summer run tickets. Their are face value extras at every show during the summer, on lot, sometimes on the ground! We definitely fought the scalpers hard first leg and aside from Dicks and Bill Graham tickets they left us alone on second leg (except for ATL for some reason) So with 30th anny coming up and a possible Hampton run lets try and remember to put in only for what you need and If you see someone trying to scalp a PTBM ticket give em hell!!!!!!!!!! END RANT (sorry yall)

New years from tm is 90.6