There seems to be a lot of us on this forum that sell things that we've created. T-shirts, glass, art, whatever. And I was wondering if we could sticky a thread that is a place for all of us to post (once) a link to our website or store. Like a Shakedown St. for the .net.
I looked at the Terms of Use and this was as close to a "No" as I could see:
"3. The sale of services or things (including by posting links) that infringe or may infringe the trademarks and copyrights of Phish, Inc., Phish.net, or The Mockingbird Foundation is not permitted. Other commercial posts or links may be removed at the discretion of site administrators."
"The discretion of site administrators" is where this could be shot down.
I recognize that this forum is hosted by the Mockingbird Foundation and I don't want to be taking potential money away from them. But, I've bought t-shirts from @the_Landlady and seen other forum users posting their wares (myself included).
But a stickied thread where one could post a link to their stuff, then when the rest of the .net is looking for a gift they can start there and buy "local". It'd be something like "I sell this and you can buy it here."
Is this a bad/good idea? Will this cause problems with Mockingbird? Would the admins go for this?
And, again, I'm sorry if this idea has been talked to death already.
I like the idea though I'm not sure the forum wants to get involved with this officially, even as far as sticky-ing a thread. These are private transactions among members and fans.
Helping out a fan by purchasing there artwork / goods is always a great thing to do.
Helping out a fan by purchasing there artwork / goods is always a great thing to do.Yeah, see, this is what I was thinking. And if everyone who sold artwork/goods could be all together in one thread, then they'd be easy to find.
All the Philly boys would just end up showing up with tanks.Shipping would be a bitch.
http://img1.etsystatic.com/004/0/5819069/il_fullxfull.355724497_ajg9.jpgOur first vendor.....
Like one post per person and not spamming the thing up. Also maybe only people that are members as of this date. And that the product should be somehow phish/art/music related.
I'll check in with the site team and see if there would be any objections.
By all means, keep brainstorming.
I dont think there is an issue with this, but I think it would be clutch if everyone kept it organized and played nice. Some kind of ground rules to keep it usable.Awesome! I'm down with ground rules (I know, I know there's an irony to having RULES in this community).
Like one post per person and not spamming the thing up. Also maybe only people that are members as of this date. And that the product should be somehow phish/art/music related.
I'll check in with the site team and see if there would be any objections.
By all means, keep brainstorming.
Thanks for considering it!
fucktards.
Edit: I thought that would censor, adding an ironic tinge to my post. f*** it.
@GrooveHolmes said:They have trained carrier pigeons.All the Philly boys would just end up showing up with tanks.Shipping would be a bitch.
@DirtyAl1173 said:Tie the balloons to the pigeons?@GrooveHolmes said:They have trained carrier pigeons.All the Philly boys would just end up showing up with tanks.Shipping would be a bitch.
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Paying a fee would be easier BUT would the fee keep .netters from posting their links? And would posting here guarantee sales? People would have to figure out if its worth paying a fee.
Honestly I hadn't thought about fees/percents of sales/etc. I was thinking more about the community aspect of it.
But I'm open to the idea.....
I doubt we'd get into a mandatory fee or advertising model.
So someone who's really into this - draft up a couple bullet point-style guidelines/ground rules. Basic, common sense, to keep stuff organized.
The ToU point, word for word.
Idea of one post each, so make it a good one. (Or alternately, a way to ensure people don't literally spam the thread.)
Maybe a limit on the # of pics in a post, so 1 post doesnt stretch out a whole page...
A request for optional donation to MBF as thanks for providing the marketplace.
Stuff like that. Kick it around, then PM me or post here or something. No rush, but I've got a lot going on right now and cant responsibly volunteer to take point on this.
Also, lets start with a thread, because coding a whole additional section of the site is not gonna happen instantly.
Donations aren't bad either. But the honor system can be tricky.
Let's see if anyone is interested in a Shakedown Thread. If only three people sign up, then is it worth it?
::in all seriousness, I got a book that I just finished. Have been looking for a literary agent though not too hard. Could print up 1000 copies, anyone want a book? $15, I'll even sign it.::
@johnnyd said:
Like one post per person and not spamming the thing up. Also maybe only people that are members as of this date. And that the product should be somehow phish/art/music related.I like the one post per .netter.
But I think it should remain open to all .netters (even the ones that don't know they're .netters yet) but perhaps there should be a waiting period before they're allowed to post. That way they aren't signing up just to hock some crap. But with a waiting period only the new .netters that are serious will post (hopefully the trolls will get tired of waiting and move on).
ONE picture that best represents what you're selling. Why? B/c your website should be filled with pictures.
A short blurb about your goods. "Hey I sell awesome T-shirts!"
A link to your site/store/etc. "Check 'em out here: LINK"
Products should be Phish/music/art/crafts related. There might be some other acceptable products but for now this should be enough.
No sales of drugs/weapons/illegal. We don't want Mockingbird to be accused of drug dealing.
A reprint of the .net ToU to remind users of the copyright infringement issues.
"We'd like to thank the Mockingbird Foundation for giving us this space to share our products. Please make a donation to help keep this community vibrant and alive." Or something to that effect.
Hmmmm any other ideas?
But overall I really like your idea and your guidelines, well done.
Update their post: Is there a time limit on the "Edit" function? Can you make a post, then use the edit function for when you update your product line or whatever? I've never tried to edit a post I made months ago. I think being able to update your info is important, though. That's a good idea.
Keep the ideas coming pholks. This is becoming a reality.
Edit: I see that I cannot edit a previous comment. I'll try to come up with a solution.....
who will provide the veggie burritos?Do you deliver?
FYI: I can make a mean lentil and cauliflower curry
2. Vendors update once a month at most. Could skip that if they want and older post falls off board.
3. Only current .netters- n00bs after a year of posting or 15 shows, whichever is first.
4. Must know how to spell
5. THREE pictures that best represents what you're selling. Why? B/c your website should be filled with pictures. (Changed to give a fuller preview)
6. A short blurb about your goods. "Hey I sell awesome T-shirts!"
7. A link to your site/store/etc. "Check 'em out here: LINK"
8. Products should be Phish/music/art/crafts related. There might be some other acceptable products but for now this should be enough.
9. No sales of drugs/weapons/illegal. We don't want Mockingbird to be accused of drug dealing.
10. (-Not sure on this one-)---A reprint of the .net ToU to remind users of the copyright infringement issues.
11. The donation to Mockingbird should be the same as PhanArt no matter what....."We'd like to thank the Mockingbird Foundation for giving us this space to share our products. Please make a donation to help keep this community vibrant and alive." Or something to that effect.
12. Also add to the already great- PhanArt page
13.
Hmmmm any other ideas?
Shakedown .net online sounds cool- I was able to donate over $40 so far because of the few posts I made here and was stoked to meet cool people. It's a great idea. Let's get it going
I have some goods right now I'm about to post to PhanArt- would be cool to do it here as well, all the sales from this traffic could do some good for Mockingbird
It'd be nice to hawk this shit to online wooks.
who will provide the veggie burritos?I'll take two please!
FYI: I can make a mean lentil and cauliflower curry
Also, when wording the rules, I addressed the "update" option by allowing updates but implying that you should do it rarely. This way one .netter can't just bombard the thread with their post and drown out the others.
About the Phan Art, I'm not going to mention them in the rules. I think its best that since this is being hosted by Mockingbird, the rules should direct traffic to Mockingbird. BUT you're welcome to include Phan Art in your own post, add a link to them, whatever.
And I did allow "new" .netters to post after they've been members for a year. I do understand @the_Landlady 's point about preventing "outsiders" from taking over the thread but I thought it was fair to allow a member that's been on here for a year to be allowed to post.
I'm going to be putting this thread up this morning. @johnnyd is going to look it over and make any changes that may need to be made.
I tried to make the rules fair without being too over the top. I hope ya'll enjoy this and contribute. And feel free to let me know if you think something might be amiss.
^ I agree on all counts, and I think Mockingbird is supported by PhanArt also, that's why I was pushing them, so they always end up earning something. I basically tried to copy/paste your original post and add my 0.02. Love the idea as who wants to leave the lot when the shows over anyway? I have some insane Mango Hot Sauce ready to be bottled and shipped! And other goods...Awesome! My wife and I love us some hot sauce. Looking forward to you posting.
Im just throwing my hat in the ring as someone who would be interested in vending a little bit, i dont make much. I think its a great idea. The rules that have been outlined seem fair.
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