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"And he sang to them, now in the Elven tongue, now in the speech of the West, until their hearts, wounded with sweet words, overflowed, and their joy was like swords, and they passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together and tears are the very wine of blessedness."Anyone else like these books so much that they are a part of you? The Lord of the Rings is a 'rock' for me - time might change my mood or my state or my status but the Lord of the Rings will always be the Lord of the Rings.
None of that movie stuff allowed.
Read 'em, then you wont have to listen to the best fantasy characters in the history of literature engage in super dumbed-down dialogue to please the masses.
I mean as far as special effects, cinematography, scope, etc its all great - but the script is typical Hollywood. Ugh.
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Read the hobbit a few years back, but you just inspired me to run out and get the series. If you need a book check out cloud atlas...def worth the read. Beautiful writing
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You definitely have to read the trilogy. Amazing!! As for me, I need to reread the hobbit before I see the movie.
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Easily my favorite fantasy works of all time. Tolkien was an absolute master. And I think that Peter Jackson did about as good a job as is possible with those movies.
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anyone gaga over The Silmarillion? Kinda like the bible for the world of LoTR, the creation story is all about music and really does a great job of putting the importance of music in context for the rest of the tales.If you have read LoTR and the Hobbit, The Silmarillion just might be what you have been looking for, some fantastic characters and stories.
Tolkien prose is unparalleled IMO
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Yeah, Tolkien paints such amazing mental images...This is where I'd grab my copy and pull a dazzling quote, but our new puppy ate it a month ago. I was quite pissed.
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@Nicculus_george said: anyone gaga over The Silmarillion? Kinda like the bible for the world of LoTR, the creation story is all about music and really does a great job of putting the importance of music in context for the rest of the tales.Thus he came alone to Angband's gates, and he sounded his horn, and smote once more upon the brazen doors, and challenged Morgoth to come forth to single combat. And Morgoth came.
If you have read LoTR and the Hobbit, The Silmarillion just might be what you have been looking for, some fantastic characters and stories.
Tolkien prose is unparalleled IMO
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its great that i just saw this thread because i just finished rereading the series."yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that thhose who live after may have a clean earth to till. what weather they shall have is not ours to rule."
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Almost finished reading the Hobbit for the first time. I've got all three books of the series as well, I'll start on those next.
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@cactoid said: @Nicculus_george said:Fingolfin v Morgoth? At work without my copy handy...anyone gaga over The Silmarillion? Kinda like the bible for the world of LoTR, the creation story is all about music and really does a great job of putting the importance of music in context for the rest of the tales.Thus he came alone to Angband's gates, and he sounded his horn, and smote once more upon the brazen doors, and challenged Morgoth to come forth to single combat. And Morgoth came.
If you have read LoTR and the Hobbit, The Silmarillion just might be what you have been looking for, some fantastic characters and stories.
Tolkien prose is unparalleled IMO
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For those in the know then, the question is thus... Feanor or Fingolfin, who's the most badass of the Elves?
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Um, Fingolfin.Did you even look at the picture you just posted??
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@fishman4 said: Almost finished reading the Hobbit for the first time. I've got all three books of the series as well, I'll start on those next.Oh man, I envy you. What I wouldn't give to be able to read the entire series again for the first time.
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Great books I've read the trilogy and sillmarilion but somehow havnt read the hobbit yet
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@Abrahm said: @fishman4 said:I'm really excited. I've seen the movies so many times and it's blasphemy that I haven't read the books yet.Almost finished reading the Hobbit for the first time. I've got all three books of the series as well, I'll start on those next.Oh man, I envy you. What I wouldn't give to be able to read the entire series again for the first time.
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I am going to the premiere as Beorn. For the ladies.
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The Silmarillion was soo deep for me in high school that I couldn't finish it. My copy is somewhere
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I saw the movies before I read the books, it was hard to enjoy honestly, but I did like them. But I made sure to read the Hobbit before those come out. I now know to always read the book first, movies suck compared to books.
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Just finished reading the Hobbit to kid #2. Kid #1 got to hear it read aloud for the 2nd time!We are now up on Weathertop in tLotR
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Reading tolkien to the kids is truly god `s work. Thank you from humanity.
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@Nicculus_george said: For those in the know then, the question is thus... Feanor or Fingolfin, who's the most badass of the Elves?Please. Feanor was the greatest smith of all time, but as a warrior he sucked. Couldn't even handle a few balrogs. Fingolfin went toe-to-toe with the greatest of the Ainur and sliced it to him seven times. Fingolfin all the way.
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Glad to see a healthy appreciation of Tolkien on .net! The books are fantastic and generally a lot of fun to discuss with others as they are so rich and purposeful. Seriously no words are wasted and there are a LOT of them.One thing I have always found interesting is asking people's opinions on Tom Bombadil and Goldberry.
What/who are they? Why do they show up in the LoTR stories/what is their purpose?
I had these questions when I initially read the stories and have revisited since reading the Silmarillion. I even found some college papers by others addressing the topic.
I mean all the characters in LoTR, even the most powerful, succumb to the power of the ring. Yet this guy Bombadil treats it like some child's toy or something! He makes the damn thing disappear!
Any discussion or opinions would be appreciated.
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Yes, a great trilogy that everyone should read. Can't wait for the Hobbit movie to come out. Peter Jackson will not disappoint.
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LOTR Mistreatment of Animals
Kind of sad to come across this article today. Obviously the crew for LOTR didn't mean to do any harm to the animals. It was just a bad habitat for the animals.
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i read the hobbit and all three lotr a few years back. does one need to read these before the silmarilion? or does it not matter? I'd like to read it but not sure if i remember all the ins and outs of middle earth.
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@Nicculus_george said: Glad to see a healthy appreciation of Tolkien on .net! The books are fantastic and generally a lot of fun to discuss with others as they are so rich and purposeful. Seriously no words are wasted and there are a LOT of them.Its interesting, Tom Bombadil was intentionally an enigma according to Tolkien, but I always thought he was some kind of Avatar form of Ea, the world itself, but not an Ainur. Dunno why exactly, but I definitely had some evidence at one point. Maybe later I'll drum it up.
One thing I have always found interesting is asking people's opinions on Tom Bombadil and Goldberry.
What/who are they? Why do they show up in the LoTR stories/what is their purpose?
I had these questions when I initially read the stories and have revisited since reading the Silmarillion. I even found some college papers by others addressing the topic.
I mean all the characters in LoTR, even the most powerful, succumb to the power of the ring. Yet this guy Bombadil treats it like some child's toy or something! He makes the damn thing disappear!
Any discussion or opinions would be appreciated.
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I like the idea of comparing the types of language used to describe Bombadil and Goldberry in LoTR to search for comparable characters in the SilmarillionLots of instances that indicate that Bombadil is from an early time in creation that is most likely dealt with/fleshed out in the Silmarillion moreso than the vague references we get in LoTR
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When I was in high school I read The Hobbit, but didn't get around to reading the trilogy. Last month I decided to start reading them for the first time, and now i'm on chapter four of The Two Towers. I saw the movies when they came out and really liked them, but i'm glad that I don't remember anything about the movies now that i'm actually reading the books.
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@RoverPhish said: i read the hobbit and all three lotr a few years back. does one need to read these before the silmarilion? or does it not matter? I'd like to read it but not sure if i remember all the ins and outs of middle earth.Not required. The silmarillion still confused the hell out of me after I read the trilogy
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Tolkien created one of the greatest fiction universes of all time. I have not read the trilogy in sometime, but those novels are still some of my favorite literary works.
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