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Tell me about NYE 2002 @ MSG (Ten Years On)

Roofless_Sheds Permalink
Roofless_Sheds i KNOW it was a ridiculously hard ticket... but if you made it in, how did it feel to be there? how was the music? in your opinion, how do that night's debut versions of Waves, Seven Below, and Walls Of The Cave hold up?

looking forward to raging the tenth anniversary of the Phirst Return in little more than a month :)

December 31, 2002

Madison Square Garden, New York, NY

Set 1: Piper[1], Guyute, NICU, Horn, Wilson[2], Mound, The Squirming Coil > David Bowie[3]

Set 2: Waves[4] > Divided Sky, Lawn Boy, Carini, Rift, Harry Hood > Character Zero

Set 3: Sample in a Jar, Seven Below[4] > Auld Lang Syne > Runaway Jim[5] -> Time Loves a Hero, Taste, Strange Design, Walls of the Cave[4]

Encore: Wading in the Velvet Sea

[1] Low Rider tease.
[2] Castaway intro and "Tom Hanks" guest appearance.
[3] DEG tease.
[4] Debut.
[5] What's the Use? tease.

Notes: Phish returned from their hiatus with their first public show since October 7, 2000. The pre-show music alluded to the end of the hiatus with such songs as the theme from Welcome Back Kotter, Feels Like the First Time, Back in the Saddle Again, Reunited, and The Boys are Back in Town. The final selection was Foreplay/Long Time, during which time the band took the stage. Piper included a Low Rider tease. Prior to Wilson, a scene from the Tom Hanks movie Cast Away was played in the arena (referring to Hanks’ character searching for his volleyball/companion named Wilson). Trey subsequently introduced Hanks to sing the final lyric. Major news media reported the Hanks appearance, but the guest singer was actually Page’s brother, Steve McConnell. Mound was played for the first time since November 19, 1996 (276 shows). Bowie included a DEG tease. This show included the debuts of Waves, Seven Below and Walls of the Cave. Appropriately, Seven Below began about seven minutes before midnight. During the song, the crew lowered a disco ball from the scoreboard and created a “snowfall” on stage. Dancers dressed in white as snow creatures took the stage and circled the band before dispersing into the crowd. Some of the dancers ascended ladders and donned stilts to become snow angels. At midnight, white balloons and confetti were dropped on the crowd. A dwarf remained on each front corner of the stage, popping balloons, while the snow angels continued to dance. The transition between Jim and Time Loves a Hero (first since August 11, 1998, or 151 shows) included a What’s the Use? tease. The evening was capped with perfect post-show music: Let’s Stay Together.

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DanceTheJig728 Permalink
DanceTheJig728 I can't imagine what that place was like during that Piper opener
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ADAWGWYO Permalink
ADAWGWYO I didn't get in this night. I went to Karl Denson at B.B. Kings Blues Club instead and do not regret it at all. I went to the next 6 phish shows and they were all relative turds until the LA winter tour opener
February 14, 2003

Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA

Set 1: My Sweet One, Cover of the Rolling Stone[1] > Chalk Dust Torture, Fee -> Taste, Bathtub Gin[2], Heavy Things, Golgi Apparatus

Set 2: Possum, Walls of the Cave -> Carini, All of These Dreams, Limb By Limb[3], The Oh Kee Pa Ceremony > AC/DC Bag -> Prince Caspian[4]

Encore: Loving Cup

[1] Phish debut.
[2] Woman from Tokyo tease.
[3] Gotta Jibboo tease.
[4] Unfinished.

Notes: Cover of the Rolling Stone made its Phish debut at this show, presumably as a nod to their actual appearance on the cover of the March 6, 2003 issue of that very magazine. Gin included a tease of Woman from Tokyo and Limb By Limb included a Gotta Jibboo tease. A fan jumped on-stage and grabbed Trey’s microphone during AC/DC Bag before being dragged off-stage. Caspian was unfinished.

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gonephishn11 Permalink
My first show :-) Actually scored two pairs of tickets off ticketmaster at my school. There was about 25 of us trying I was the only person who got them. I still can't believe that. Anyway show was awesome. This is my favorite version of piper I've ever heard and it's the first song I ever heard them play live! I remember being very confused during the tom hanks Wilson thing. Solid show!
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gonephishn11 Permalink
That was my only time I've been to NYC. I was 19 drove out from Chicago with 3 buddies in a shitty two door old Toyota Tercel but good times. Really wanted to get back this year for the tenth anniversary of my first show (and my next show is #40) but just wasn't possible.
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UncleEb Permalink
UncleEb It was awesome! The spontaneous screams of jubilation before showtime were SO loud... and exceeded the volume in term of crowd joy of Hampton 09, imo. The slow-build on the piper was a tremendous energy draw. It was awesome! NYE was SO much better musically than the Hampton run the next few nights. Of course Feb tour was far and away better musically than NYE, it was still an amazing phishy night.
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JNap05 Permalink
It was a beautiful day in NYC that day. no winter coat needed...just perfect outside. scored 3 sugar cubes out front. energy before the show was crazy. Lots of songs relating to them being "back". Piper was a great opener...no one called that and the intro allowed the crowd to go crazy while not missing much music. It was my first mound and because of that it was the highlight of the first set for me. It was exciting to see some of the new tunes...waves was cool but didn't feel right as a set opener. The divided sky pause was bananas. Seven below with the snow was amazing. Went w a crew of 6 people and really had a great time. Just pure bliss...everyone was happy that phish was back. Had a room on broadway...stayed up all night, talking to friends who were home/at other shows. Went home for a day then made it down to hampton for those shows.
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cptpowder Permalink
cptpowder That piper intro was one of the most powerful and loud things I have ever witnessed. The new years stunt was amazing too. Love to see this on dvd someday. No doubt the hardest ticket to a phish show up to that point that I had ever seen. Luckily my buddy gave me tix to Hampton and I wasnt going either so i used them as bait and scored NYE. Holy shit was I stoked.
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funk_lin Permalink
No one could walk into this show without much anticipation....the Garden and its sonic splendor and history...NYE ....return from Hiatus...3 Hampton shows to follow...

Yes, Piper energy was crazy. Musically, whole show was ok. Cool event to be a part of but the band could have and should have delivered epic b/c that's what the moment called for.

Piper was almost too much cacophony and chaos to really resonate. Seven Below was surreal and will always be my memory of the evening. Time Loves a Hero was a nice touch but ending the 3rd set with Walls (when it was despised by most phans) and a Wading encore (despised by most phans until Page cried at Coventry) with nothing else....demonstrated how the band wasn't really ready for it (as clearly demonstrated in Hampton the following run).

So, cool to be a part of but quite disappointing considering the Band had a history of delivering in this type of moment and considering the difficulty getting into the bldg (along with your crew of friends) made this a meh evening for me.
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cptpowder Permalink
cptpowder If you have a meh evening at a phish show you might want to check your pulse...especially this night. I had a blast. As i do every time.
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kindtrades Permalink
seven below snowfall inside msg.
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gonephishn11 Permalink
Heard mound and time loves a hero at my first show. Didn't hear mound again until this year at deer creek (36th show) then again in the STL(39th)! Stats are crazy. Dying to hear time lives a hero again that will break my longest streak I think. Or any little feat, but that night made me love that song forever!
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dscott Permalink
@funk_lin said:
Time Loves a Hero was a nice touch but ending the 3rd set with Walls (when it was despised by most phans) and a Wading encore (despised by most phans until Page cried at Coventry) with nothing else....demonstrated how the band wasn't really ready for it (as clearly demonstrated in Hampton the following run).
Those 2 songs would have made the night for me. Seriously. They hold up quite nicely on tape, too. Top-notch, cathartic version of Wading. However, I guess since you don't like those songs it means that the band was unprepared for the occasion. ;)
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CornFromAJar Permalink
CornFromAJar @funk_lin said:
but ending the 3rd set with Walls (when it was despised by most phans)
How was Walls "despised by most phans" when it's 'debut' was on the Round Room album mere WEEKS before 12/31/02?

Personally, I found Walls, and Waves, to be QUITE epic, and was more than thrilled to hear its live debut on 12/31/02 :)
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Thunder Permalink
Thunder Unfortunately I was not there ... tried for tix but no luck. That was the first go with the new online mailorder if I recall correctly. I made it out to Woosta on the Feb tour, which was great. Anyways on the point of WoTC I would actually argue that it was most appropriate given the venue/city and the fact that it was their first time in MSG since 9/11. And I don't remember "alot of phans hating it" at the time.
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funk_lin Permalink
...I was with 20+ friends for 12/31/02 (easily over 1000 shows between us) and not a single one of us found the show anything more than fun to be with each other. Collectively found it musically meh. If you don't agree....good for you. That's the beauty of art.

Don't get me wrong: I was very happy to be there ...never said I wasn't. Still go see the band year after year 125+ shows and counting.....

What doesn't change year after year on these boards: Express your opinion contrary to someone's personal opinion/experience and people just can't handle it...almost like it's an attack on their emotional connection. Relax...art is subjective. From rmp to pt to .net ...same as it ever was .... same as it ever was.

See you on tour this summer folks...
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Roofless_Sheds Permalink
Roofless_Sheds listened last night. some thoughts:

- Piper was good, but it came off as a slightly less-developed version of the Piper from Vegas six weeks later. They even revisit and flesh out TWO of the themes introduced in the MSG jam in that one!

- Waves, Jim, Bowie, Walls Of The Cave, and even Taste all show off that great textured '03 interwoven jamming fabric, in surprisingly mature form... all of these versions stand up to any I've heard from 2003-04. great major-key jam space in Bowie, and an excellent segue from Jim > Time Loves A Hero.

- on my SBD recording, it sounds like Taste should have segued out of something, but... it doesn't. there's a good minute of quiet and crowd noise at the end of Time Loves A Hero, and then Taste starts, but with a weird abrupt cymbal wash that makes me think there's something missing. anybody else notice this?

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dscott Permalink
@funk_lin said:
...I was with 20+ friends for 12/31/02 (easily over 1000 shows between us) and not a single one of us found the show anything more than fun to be with each other. Collectively found it musically meh. If you don't agree....good for you. That's the beauty of art.

Don't get me wrong: I was very happy to be there ...never said I wasn't. Still go see the band year after year 125+ shows and counting.....

What doesn't change year after year on these boards: Express your opinion contrary to someone's personal opinion/experience and people just can't handle it...almost like it's an attack on their emotional connection. Relax...art is subjective. From rmp to pt to .net ...same as it ever was .... same as it ever was.

See you on tour this summer folks...
Some people disagree, but the point is that you projected your experience onto the band. That's kind of absurd, when you think about it. Your negative opinion about the song selection doesn't mean any more than my favorable opinion about it in terms of figuring out whether the band was prepared for rising to the occasion.
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mainegabe Permalink
I got a single ticketmaster ticket through my rural dsl connection. Then, a friend got the Bank of America box so I traded up for that (got another dear friend into the building as well). The scene heading in was intense, we walked up the wrong ramp, then swam against traffic to find the uncrowded escalator to the suites. Swimming against that traffic with 10-12 people was by far the hardest movement through a Phish crowd I've ever done. We raged the box hard, someone got engaged (now divorced), we had table service, it was really over the top and kind of indicative of 2.0 in general (it would not be the last time we had the BofA suite), for us and perhaps the band. Too much of anything ain't good for nobody. You better believe it.

The show was good. I treated it like a start of something bigger. Which it was. There was so much more to come in the year to follow. I liked the bookends of Piper and WOTC. Waves> Divided just sounds cool. That Waves is still top 5 and a great contender for best debut. Carini was nasty.

Bill Walton (can neither confirm nor deny it was him) was freaking out in the front row to Wading. Raising his big paws up into the air triumphantly in the shape of giant energy ball. WTFUck? Too funny. Noob. That was unexpected highlight of the box high above the stage, the ability to mock people below during the slow jams. Always dance like no one is watching, go ahead, it's fine because, we're watching and it's hilarious.

We had a message on on our hotel room phone when we got back. All the message said was...Mouuuund.
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties Someone explain the snow?
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funk_lin Permalink




3:12 or so in....

Snow began falling from the rafters above the floor as many performance artists took to stilts on the floor

It basically snowed in MSG to lead into ALSyne
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funk_lin Permalink
sorry...2:55 in
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