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What was the market price like? What was the demand like? What was getting tickets like? How hard was it? (Etc.)THe great 12/29/1997 show ticket stub says it was 27.50 to see Phish. Unreal.
Obviously it was a different time but id like to know how it has changed. Has it?
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MSG has always been a tough ticket because of demand. Also it's NYC and everything is a process here. Personally I hate the recent renovations, but am hopeful the new GA sections bring back some of the old glory that dominated the 95 and 97 runs.
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@jhhart2000 said: MSG has always been a tough ticket because of demand. Also it's NYC and everything is a process here. Personally I hate the recent renovations, but am hopeful the new GA sections bring back some of the old glory that dominated the 95 and 97 runs.yeah but were the tickets well over 500 dollars a pop like they are now? What was considered a ridiculous price for a ticket? Was it impossible to find a face value ticket like it is now?
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I would imagine its very differt than today... No stub hub, or cash or trade. I would also think there was alot more tradin and selling going on outside the venue
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Through at least '96, if you had you're shit even mildly together and could do enough math to get the mail order right, it was pretty easy to get tickets. I don't know anyone that got denied on mail order back then. Granted I wasnt online to hear all the stories, but in '95 for example, I was with like 15 people that all mail ordered, and none of them even knew of anyone being denied. I really have no idea what the scalping scene was. There was no need to, due to my superior skills at knowing I wanted to go see phish, properly filling out the form and adding up the total, and mailing the thing at the right time.Cant speak to 97 or 98 as I didnt try for tix those years.
Having the free flow of information and hype certainly doesnt hurt the aftermarkets.
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Hard for me to say because I've never paid more than face. But it doesn't seem that different than today for me. Maybe people weren't paying 500, but they were paying 200 (which makes sense when you look at that stub from 97). And it's never impossible to find a ticket for face IMO 
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I wish
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Found my ticket stub from nye '97 not too long ago..$35.00! I used to go to this little record shop (Scotty's) by my parents house..never any lines..and never any problem getting tickets..I didn't start using the Schvice until '98..and I don't really remember the ticket hysteria surrounding the nye shows either..I'm sure there was one..it just wasn't as widespread as it is today, with the way the internetz is a major thing in everyday lives..
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I was denied mail order in 98. Got the 28 and 29 and skunked on the 30 and 31.Still got in though.
On NYE outside the Garden on 12-31-98 I saw various sellers asking for over 200 dollars for a $35.00 ticket.
So with inflation in mind it was just as bad.
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@Sprachtor said: I was denied mail order in 98. Got the 28 and 29 and skunked on the 30 and 31.interesting. thanks for the good answer.
Still got in though.
On NYE outside the Garden on 12-31-98 I saw various sellers asking for over 200 dollars for a $35.00 ticket.
So with inflation in mind it was just as bad.
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The only 1.0 NYE show I saw was Big Cypress. I had friends who were at all of them and didn't pay over face. There were scalpers who charged the equivilant to what is charged these days adjusted for inflation. The thing is that those scalpers had to actually use ingenuity and work for their money. These days anyone can flip tickets with a couple keystrokes. Mail order was more work too, but a lot more fruitful for a lot more people. Good envelope artwork would increase your chances of getting tickets and you had to actually have the money on hand for every ticket you requested. That certainly cut down on people putting in multiple requests
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@ITSnICE said: Mail order was more work too, but a lot more fruitful for a lot more people. Good envelope artwork would actually increase your chances of getting tickets and you had to actually have the money on hand for every ticket you requested. That certainly cut down on people putting in multiple requestsI remember decorating the mail order envelopes!! I would get my super creative friends to help and hope my mail order was picked. I got a few Dead tickets and a few Phish tickets thru mail order
I saw a Grateful Dead exhibit in NYC a few years ago and they had a bunch on display. Very cool
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http://forum.phish.net/thread.php?thread=1349308336 I mail ordered for 1995 ($30.00) for New Years, as did a bunch of other friends. Everyone I knew got tickets.
I do remember some scalpers outside MSG trying to get $70-100 for tickets.
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hardest tickets ive ever seen were not new years....... halloween 94 and halloween 98 vegas were very hard tickets.... easiest ticket ever seen gainesville Fl 94and yes i mail ordered 95 new years and gave away my tickets..........
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@jhhart2000 said:
And it's never impossible to find a ticket for face IMOTrue.
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I mail ordered for NYE 95 and got my tix no problems. Still have the stub. Which is amazing because I wasn't very careful with stubs back then.
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@Phishin90 said: http://forum.phish.net/thread.php?thread=1349308336By the rate of inflation, or following the consumer price index, a ticket that was $30 in 1995 would cost $43.73 as of the end of 2011. If scalpers were charging $70 to $100, then the scalpers are NOT following the CPI. Tickets are $75 now, so scalpers asking $500 are out of their minds.
I mail ordered for 1995 ($30.00) for New Years, as did a bunch of other friends. Everyone I knew got tickets.
I do remember some scalpers outside MSG trying to get $70-100 for tickets.
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@RovingReporter said: Tickets are $75 now, so scalpers asking $500 are out of their minds.Not if people are paying it.
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