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I posted this on PT also, but maybe there will be some interest here.
I bought these 2 $816 face value seats during the Amex presale. I wasn't sure I could go, but figured I could resell them if I couldn't. Alas, it does not appear meant to be.
If I'm going to lose a bunch of money, maybe a .netter can benefit.
These are awesome seats. Section 7, row 7, on the aisle, seats 1 & 2. Here's a seating chart. http://www.gotickets.com/cached/_images/maintainwidth/521x500/3289d6466a2cd8483042263f956c9f7d/prudentialcenter_concert-5282.jpg
I'm running a raffle for these 2 tickets.
Here's some details on this raffle:
1. Entries into the raffle will be $20 each. Entry fees will be collected via paypal.
2. Guesses/entries will be accepted until 11:59am Thursday 12/6/2012.
3. Each entrant will pick a unique 2 digit number from 00-99. There will be a maximum of 100 entries.
4. The 2-digit number you have selected will be compared to the last 2 digits of the winning number from the Friday, 12/7/12 midday Pick 3 lottery from the SC Education Lottery, found here: http://www.sceducationlottery.com/games2/3winningnumbers_pick3.asp
5. In the event there are no exact winners, closest to the winning number wins. If there are 2 people equally close, they will each pick a new number for the next day's midday Pick 3 until someone is closer.
6. You are responsible for making sure that no one else has guessed your number before you guess. To assist with this, all entries will be tracked on a public spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoaPmAAf-scUdC1aaTZVeDNKWjQ1RVRkZHJyNjVFVlE
Only the first guess of any number will be considered. If you realize later you have made a duplicate guess, you can change it, up until entries are no longer accepted. Guesses can only be changed in the event of a duplicate, no other changes will be allowed.
7. I will PM the winner to ask for your shipping address, and then I ship you the tickets Fedex overnight at my expense. It is your responsibility to respond timely with this info, get the tickets, and go. I absolve myself of responsibility for you not using these ridiculously expensive tickets.
8. I do not intend to profit from this raffle. If we get more than 81 entries, any additional entry money over and above the $1632 I paid for the tickets will go to the winner to be used for copious amounts of prostitutes and cocaine, or whatever it is that the cool kids are doing these days.
8. I probably haven't thought of everything in this post. I'll update these rules as needed. I reserve the right to make necessary decisions to keep this contest fair. If I screw up, I'll make a concerted effort to make it right somehow.
9. Good Luck!
How to Enter:
1. Paypal $20 to rikb37@gmail.com, either as a gift, or you can pay the fees to send it as "goods" or "services". In the comments section, put ONLY YOUR USERNAME AND YOUR GUESSED NUMBER. Please do not say anything about a raffle, lottery, gambling, or something else stupid like linking this thread. I'll know what the money is for, I promise. I had my paypal account blocked recently for collecting powerball money.
2. Check back and make sure your username is put next to your number on the spreadsheet linked above. If not, PM me or email me.
3. Cross your fingers and wait for next Friday, where you may be lucky enough to be just a few dozen yards away from a nostalgia act that puts your usual nostalgia act to shame.
I bought these 2 $816 face value seats during the Amex presale. I wasn't sure I could go, but figured I could resell them if I couldn't. Alas, it does not appear meant to be.
If I'm going to lose a bunch of money, maybe a .netter can benefit.
These are awesome seats. Section 7, row 7, on the aisle, seats 1 & 2. Here's a seating chart. http://www.gotickets.com/cached/_images/maintainwidth/521x500/3289d6466a2cd8483042263f956c9f7d/prudentialcenter_concert-5282.jpg
I'm running a raffle for these 2 tickets.
Here's some details on this raffle:
1. Entries into the raffle will be $20 each. Entry fees will be collected via paypal.
2. Guesses/entries will be accepted until 11:59am Thursday 12/6/2012.
3. Each entrant will pick a unique 2 digit number from 00-99. There will be a maximum of 100 entries.
4. The 2-digit number you have selected will be compared to the last 2 digits of the winning number from the Friday, 12/7/12 midday Pick 3 lottery from the SC Education Lottery, found here: http://www.sceducationlottery.com/games2/3winningnumbers_pick3.asp
5. In the event there are no exact winners, closest to the winning number wins. If there are 2 people equally close, they will each pick a new number for the next day's midday Pick 3 until someone is closer.
6. You are responsible for making sure that no one else has guessed your number before you guess. To assist with this, all entries will be tracked on a public spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoaPmAAf-scUdC1aaTZVeDNKWjQ1RVRkZHJyNjVFVlE
Only the first guess of any number will be considered. If you realize later you have made a duplicate guess, you can change it, up until entries are no longer accepted. Guesses can only be changed in the event of a duplicate, no other changes will be allowed.
7. I will PM the winner to ask for your shipping address, and then I ship you the tickets Fedex overnight at my expense. It is your responsibility to respond timely with this info, get the tickets, and go. I absolve myself of responsibility for you not using these ridiculously expensive tickets.
8. I do not intend to profit from this raffle. If we get more than 81 entries, any additional entry money over and above the $1632 I paid for the tickets will go to the winner to be used for copious amounts of prostitutes and cocaine, or whatever it is that the cool kids are doing these days.
8. I probably haven't thought of everything in this post. I'll update these rules as needed. I reserve the right to make necessary decisions to keep this contest fair. If I screw up, I'll make a concerted effort to make it right somehow.
9. Good Luck!
How to Enter:
1. Paypal $20 to rikb37@gmail.com, either as a gift, or you can pay the fees to send it as "goods" or "services". In the comments section, put ONLY YOUR USERNAME AND YOUR GUESSED NUMBER. Please do not say anything about a raffle, lottery, gambling, or something else stupid like linking this thread. I'll know what the money is for, I promise. I had my paypal account blocked recently for collecting powerball money.
2. Check back and make sure your username is put next to your number on the spreadsheet linked above. If not, PM me or email me.
3. Cross your fingers and wait for next Friday, where you may be lucky enough to be just a few dozen yards away from a nostalgia act that puts your usual nostalgia act to shame.
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you got screwed over
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How on Earth can the Stones charge that much....Stone them!
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sounds like a good scam to me.... 00-99 = 100 chances at $20 = $2000 cash to a person i dont know or have no way to verify if i won or lost....maybe i'm wrong, but you have to guess your number, not get assigned a number....so the chances of the contest holder just increased to unlimited funds because 30-50 people could all pick the same number?You may as well just sell them on stubhub and not screw us with your offer...just sayin'
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So you're saying that on a whim you decided to dump $1700 on two tix to the Stones not knowing if you could even make the show and thought that you'd try to scam a bunch of Phishheads out of $20 per for this pyramid scheme? The same phans that are scrambling to get $65/$75 NYE MSG tix for their FAVORITE band at face? Seriously, you: a) are an idiot; b) are a thief in phish clothing; or c) think that WE are idiots w/ disposable cash. Good luck w/that!
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I was originally going to be the first post in the thread bashing the idea but I thought I'd give OP a chance. Glad others agree. Why should we have any incentive to drop $20, $40, or even $60 just for your desire to break even? Raffles like this are usually professionally run, and I only enter them when I support the organization (radio station, etc) or charity (Mimi Fishman, MBird, Waterwheel, etc). It would be different if there was no loss for us, but there clearly is. So, you want us to take a loss at the expense of your premature decision to buy ridiculously expensive tickets? Or at the expense to erase your loss? Doesn't make sense...
EDIT: I understand the backside of things- you are potentially giving two tickets worth $1600 away for $10/each. But the premise, which is your desire to break even, is what I have a problem with.
EDIT: I understand the backside of things- you are potentially giving two tickets worth $1600 away for $10/each. But the premise, which is your desire to break even, is what I have a problem with.
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@joonze said:
One person per number. Let's say you pick 23. No one else can pick 23. So if 23 comes up, you know you won. I made a spreadsheet for you to look at to see who has what number, so it's easy to see what numbers are left.
I feel like you didn't real the whole first post.
sounds like a good scam to me.... 00-99 = 100 chances at $20 = $2000 cash to a person i dont know or have no way to verify if i won or lost....maybe i'm wrong, but you have to guess your number, not get assigned a number....so the chances of the contest holder just increased to unlimited funds because 30-50 people could all pick the same number?I'm confused as to why you think this is a scam. I'm using a publicly verifiable source to determine the winner, lottery results are posted publicly. It's not like I'm pulling names out of a hat.
You may as well just sell them on stubhub and not screw us with your offer...just sayin'
One person per number. Let's say you pick 23. No one else can pick 23. So if 23 comes up, you know you won. I made a spreadsheet for you to look at to see who has what number, so it's easy to see what numbers are left.
I feel like you didn't real the whole first post.
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@dedph1sh said:
I don't think anybody is an idiot, and I'm sorry if no one has $20 to spare since everyone's trying to score MSG. I figured some people would like the opportunity to possibly see the Stones (whose tickets are much, much harder, with very little risk.
I'm not going to steal anybody's money, I'm being as transparent as I possibly can about the whole thing. Someone is going to see the Rolling Stones with fantastic seats, and they'll have spent $20 or $40 on tickets. It could be you.
Since Phish MSG may be skewing your vision of this, this is the equivalent of buying a $2 raffle ticket for 2 12/31 tickets. The risk is quite small to get an 80x return on your money.
So you're saying that on a whim you decided to dump $1700 on two tix to the Stones not knowing if you could even make the show and thought that you'd try to scam a bunch of Phishheads out of $20 per for this pyramid scheme? The same phans that are scrambling to get $65/$75 NYE MSG tix for their FAVORITE band at face? Seriously, you: a) are an idiot; b) are a thief in phish clothing; or c) think that WE are idiots w/ disposable cash. Good luck w/that!This is not a pyramid scheme or a scam. It's a last ditch effort to recover some funds on these tickets that I'm going to take a bath on. It also a) gives folks a chance to get awesome seats with an unattainable face value for an affordable price, and b) is fun for some to participate in lottery type activities.
I don't think anybody is an idiot, and I'm sorry if no one has $20 to spare since everyone's trying to score MSG. I figured some people would like the opportunity to possibly see the Stones (whose tickets are much, much harder, with very little risk.
I'm not going to steal anybody's money, I'm being as transparent as I possibly can about the whole thing. Someone is going to see the Rolling Stones with fantastic seats, and they'll have spent $20 or $40 on tickets. It could be you.
Since Phish MSG may be skewing your vision of this, this is the equivalent of buying a $2 raffle ticket for 2 12/31 tickets. The risk is quite small to get an 80x return on your money.
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@Phrank518 said:
I have zero hope of breaking even. I thought people would appreciate the opportunity to get unattainable tickets at a nominal price. As of this moment I have 11 entries, so I stand to lose a little over $1500 on these tickets. Which is fine, it is what it is. But if someone wants to spend $20 to have a 1 in 12 chance of winning these tickets, that's great.
I was originally going to be the first post in the thread bashing the idea but I thought I'd give OP a chance. Glad others agree. Why should we have any incentive to drop $20, $40, or even $60 just for your desire to break even? Raffles like this are usually professionally run, and I only enter them when I support the organization (radio station, etc) or charity (Mimi Fishman, MBird, Waterwheel, etc). It would be different if there was no loss for us, but there clearly is. So, you want us to take a loss at the expense of your premature decision to buy ridiculously expensive tickets? Or at the expense to erase your loss? Doesn't make sense...I'm not sure you understand the concept of a raffle. Every raffle presents a potential loss. It's the upside that matters.
EDIT: I understand the backside of things- you are potentially giving two tickets worth $1600 away for $10/each. But the premise, which is your desire to break even, is what I have a problem with.
I have zero hope of breaking even. I thought people would appreciate the opportunity to get unattainable tickets at a nominal price. As of this moment I have 11 entries, so I stand to lose a little over $1500 on these tickets. Which is fine, it is what it is. But if someone wants to spend $20 to have a 1 in 12 chance of winning these tickets, that's great.
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wish i was near I would enter---nice raffle thanks,
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As long as the OP handles the raffle according to the guidelines he laid in place, I see it as a $20 raffle ticket for Stones Tickets. He's even giving profits back, seems legit, unless I am missing something.
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Did we win any money in the POWERBALL?
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@HARRYHOOD213 said:
As long as the OP handles the raffle according to the guidelines he laid in place, I see it as a $20 raffle ticket for Stones Tickets. He's even giving profits back, seems legit, unless I am missing something.You are not missing anything. It's pretty straightforward.
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@YorkvilleBeerLover said:
Did we win any money in the POWERBALL?Unfortunately no. $1320 in tickets netted $95, which in turn netted $21. There's still a chance that $21 will turn into millions, though.
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Their ticket prices are bullshit. The Stones' songs were anthems to poor, long-haired rebels and now only old, fat, bald people can afford to go to their concerts! I think the time is right for a palace revolution!
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^ you tell em neil!
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Hi @BoyManGodShit,
I'm probably going to enter your Stones lottery. I hope you make your money back and I hope I win the tickets! I do have a question, or observation, about the format as I understand it. It sounds as if, in the case no one's number comes up, the closest number wins. While that makes sense, it also gives incentive to wait until the very last moment to enter. The logical thing would be to pick a number with the fewest other numbers around it; to put that differently, not everyone has an equal chance, based on the spread of numbers. If, for example, 3 and 5 are taken, then picking 4 would give you a 1/100 chance; but if the highest number picked is 78 (as it now is), then obviously it would make sense to pick 79 at the last minute, in which case you would win with any number between 79-99, a 20/100 or 20% chance. So I would suggest that instead you keep picking until someone's number comes up; that would be the fairest thing to do, and I think it's ethical to make this change. Otherwise, be ready for a number of entries at the last minute--with a pretty good chance that there will be some duplicates entries. Does that make sense? I hope I haven't misunderstood your system--apologies if I'm missing something.
I'm probably going to enter your Stones lottery. I hope you make your money back and I hope I win the tickets! I do have a question, or observation, about the format as I understand it. It sounds as if, in the case no one's number comes up, the closest number wins. While that makes sense, it also gives incentive to wait until the very last moment to enter. The logical thing would be to pick a number with the fewest other numbers around it; to put that differently, not everyone has an equal chance, based on the spread of numbers. If, for example, 3 and 5 are taken, then picking 4 would give you a 1/100 chance; but if the highest number picked is 78 (as it now is), then obviously it would make sense to pick 79 at the last minute, in which case you would win with any number between 79-99, a 20/100 or 20% chance. So I would suggest that instead you keep picking until someone's number comes up; that would be the fairest thing to do, and I think it's ethical to make this change. Otherwise, be ready for a number of entries at the last minute--with a pretty good chance that there will be some duplicates entries. Does that make sense? I hope I haven't misunderstood your system--apologies if I'm missing something.
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@talkinghead said: Hi @BoyManGodShit,Great point. As it is now, there's absolutely no incentive to enter this raffle before the last minute.
I'm probably going to enter your Stones lottery. I hope you make your money back and I hope I win the tickets! I do have a question, or observation, about the format as I understand it. It sounds as if, in the case no one's number comes up, the closest number wins. While that makes sense, it also gives incentive to wait until the very last moment to enter. The logical thing would be to pick a number with the fewest other numbers around it; to put that differently, not everyone has an equal chance, based on the spread of numbers. If, for example, 3 and 5 are taken, then picking 4 would give you a 1/100 chance; but if the highest number picked is 78 (as it now is), then obviously it would make sense to pick 79 at the last minute, in which case you would win with any number between 79-99, a 20/100 or 20% chance. So I would suggest that instead you keep picking until someone's number comes up; that would be the fairest thing to do, and I think it's ethical to make this change. Otherwise, be ready for a number of entries at the last minute--with a pretty good chance that there will be some duplicates entries. Does that make sense? I hope I haven't misunderstood your system--apologies if I'm missing something.
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I do think it's a great point. However, the show is coming up soon, and I don't think there are enough drawings between now and then to guarantee that someone gets the number exactly correct, especially since the entries are so few.
I agree the "closest" format probably skews entries towards the end, but I didn't think of a way to combat that that would be fair.
The exact number thing would only work if I had lots of time between raffle closure and the show date.
I agree the "closest" format probably skews entries towards the end, but I didn't think of a way to combat that that would be fair.
The exact number thing would only work if I had lots of time between raffle closure and the show date.
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Update to sweeten the deal:
All entrants who want one will receive this totally awesome limited edition t-shirt fo fwee.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2hxy2qs.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2chb69v.jpg
All entrants who want one will receive this totally awesome limited edition t-shirt fo fwee.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2hxy2qs.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2chb69v.jpg
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How about seleting a few states on that date, so if there isn't a winner based on one drawing, you go down the list of state's in a certain order. May not be perfect, but would be better then how its laid out now?
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State of Confusion is more like it....
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nobody would by these kinds of tickets on a whim,i have afeeling you got them free ..and trying to make some holiday cash..thats just my 2 cents
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@pauly said:
These tickets were not free. I can post pictures of the tickets showing the face value.
nobody would by these kinds of tickets on a whim,i have afeeling you got them free ..and trying to make some holiday cash..thats just my 2 centsNobody who isn't a dumbass, is what you're trying to say, I presume. Thanks for reinforcing that fact. I did in fact buy these tickets on a whim. I thought the demand would be greater for their (at the time) only 2 shows in the US, and I'd be able to flip them easily if I didn't go.
These tickets were not free. I can post pictures of the tickets showing the face value.
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@BoyManGodShit said:
I do think it's a great point. However, the show is coming up soon, and I don't think there are enough drawings between now and then to guarantee that someone gets the number exactly correct, especially since the entries are so few.You could just pick the numbers out of hat--that would be fair, but I understand that it would lack transparency. There are plenty of random number generators on the internet; are there any that would be publically visible to entrants? Or is there someone we trust to do it and report the number? I don't know the PT website, but I trust the mods out here ... not that they want to do it. number generator I'm also comfortable with you doing it, @BoyManGodShit. Let's keep thinking.
I agree the "closest" format probably skews entries towards the end, but I didn't think of a way to combat that that would be fair.
The exact number thing would only work if I had lots of time between raffle closure and the show date.
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regardless of the number of people buying a chance, you will still be giving away the tickets, right?so with the 14 chances sold, you will be taking a major bath. What is you incentive of keeping the raffle open and not returning the funds to each person and selling on stubhub?
like your
listing here
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That listing was supposed to be cancelled, I thought it had been. I am about to cancel it now. The raffle is going off no matter what. Yes, you are correct that I will be taking a major bath.
The incentive is that these tickets aren't selling at the price they're set at, which still represents a significant loss to me. Instead of helping one faceless person take advantage of my stupidity by dropping the price even further on stubhub, and then paying stubhub fees, I figured I'd help out someone in our community with a shot at an awesome deal for them.
The incentive is that these tickets aren't selling at the price they're set at, which still represents a significant loss to me. Instead of helping one faceless person take advantage of my stupidity by dropping the price even further on stubhub, and then paying stubhub fees, I figured I'd help out someone in our community with a shot at an awesome deal for them.
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800 dollars for the Undead Stones. No thank you.
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That listing has been deleted, I had to delete it twice to get it to take effect, I guess that's why it remained up after the raffle started, because I tried to delete it before I started this.
In any case the raffle will go off as scheduled, I will lose $1400 or so, and someone's going to see the Stones with these tickets. Any of this is readily verifiable.
In any case the raffle will go off as scheduled, I will lose $1400 or so, and someone's going to see the Stones with these tickets. Any of this is readily verifiable.
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If you are still doing the "closest to the #" if no one hits it exactly, will there be wrap-around - i.e. #99 is 1 away from #98, but also 1 away from #00, 2 away from #01, etc.??
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Is it closest or closest without going over to add to the question above - can you clafify how this will work?
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Just closest. Not "without going over", or price is right style. no "$1 Bob"s.
Wrap around is fair, otherwise those extreme numbers will be at a disadvantage, so yes, wrap around applies.
Wrap around is fair, otherwise those extreme numbers will be at a disadvantage, so yes, wrap around applies.
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not a single entry from .net, I'm kinda surprised
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@BoyManGodShit said:
Update to sweeten the deal:I feel like you guys don't understand how awesome this shirt is.
All entrants who want one will receive this totally awesome limited edition t-shirt fo fwee.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2hxy2qs.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2chb69v.jpg
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nobody has $20 in the NYC area to throw at possibly getting some sick seats to a bucket list show?
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24 hours or so to enter
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Well there goes nothing. Hope I get lucky. Hope I'm not getting screwed.
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you're in! good luck!
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.net kinda sucks
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I was going to enter tonight, but that comment you just made is not reassuring.
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@HARRYHOOD213 said: I was going to enter tonight, but that comment you just made is not reassuring.do it man...pull the trigger...pay the ....
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good man for offering you a chance at see a band you normally would go see...
best of luck to all that entered, hope you enjoy the show if you win!
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@HARRYHOOD213 said:
I was going to enter tonight, but that comment you just made is not reassuring.I'm just joking, I'm really just trying to bump with something more interesting than "up" or "bump" that might spur some conversation.
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up for less than 3 hours to go
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hour and a half