I'm interested in your stories.
Mine is what id guess could be in the top 10 longest posts on .net ha ha, it is a rough draft to my description of a transcendental expierience. It's probably safe for work, but I didn't know how else to hide it or how else to share it. I needed to type this out, apologies if its misplaced or inappropriate.
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In case I don't get around to it tomorrow, I have to say, the most powerful musical experience I have ever had was the Tower Jam at IT. I've never been one who is lost with words, and I like to think I can express myself with words very well (most times). After almost 10 years since, I still haven't been able to formulate what happened to me during that performance in words. I'm conceding that it might not be possible and it should just be left to that.
Another very powerful Phish musical experience was 11.30.97 Stash. Recently, and the first true deep musical experience I've had since Phish has returned from their break up, was Dicks Light. I should add that two of the three (Tower Jam and Light) were guided along with the help of some incredible LSD. Stash, I was basically sober (except for some smoke and maybe a beer or two).
I will get around to reading your long post, OP. I just can't dedicate that kind of time and attention to something like that right now.
8:44 into it.Never heard that interview, very awesome. Glad they decided to play again, truly joyful.
UIC 8/15/2011. When Page busted out the theremin during Undermind, I'm pretty sure that the pavilion levitated for a second or two.
Dude for new years 09 i wasnt in miami i was at my friends house just getting down on good brews fire buds and some tasty Boomers. We all ate 2-3 grams of these tbings and i must say it was pretty nuts. We were all dancing and laughing uncontrollably listening to 1.0 Era phish and some dead here and there. Well needless to say we put on halloween 95'and YEM came on (the 40:00 minute YEM) and shit got weird REALLY FAST. my buddy was mesmerized by some other worldly force. So he and his GF at the time walk out front to his yard/driveway and stop at this vig ass OAK tree, he has a silk blanket cloaked over his body like a Like wizard orsome shit. YEM iz getti.g freakishly weird and this dude just breaks down at the foot of the tree and starts balling his eyes out and falling to his knees he calls for me to come over tp him and his Girl. I ask him if everything is ok and he tells me That he is standing at the foot of "The Tree of Life" and that this very tree told him that he was JESUS CHRIST and his girl was MARY Magdalen ...... he then went on to start basically preaching to me and my few friends about all the Messed up things we do in life and how bad of people we were. He even went as far as accussing his girlfriend of doin blow with my other friend in the bathroom while he was in his Jesus Trance.
*Note: this wasnt my spiritual experience obviously, but i was there when " Jesus" came back for a set of phish played through a stereo system on NYE 09' .
*Note: this wasnt my spiritual experience obviously, but i was there when " Jesus" came back for a set of phish played through a stereo system on NYE 09' .
Ill return with feedback
But who the f*** am I to tell you what went down.
I'd say lighten up on the drugs
Lighten up on the drugs? Ha ha ha If anything I'm going heavier on those types of drugs.
You should of heard people after my 1st religious experience spring 1995, or my second spring 1998. Almost 15 years in between, that's too long.
re·li·gious (r-ljs)
adj.
1. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity.
2. Of, concerned with, or teaching religion: a religious text.
3. Extremely scrupulous or conscientious: religious devotion to duty.
spir·it·u·al
/ˈspiriCHo͞oəl/
Adjective
Of, relating to, or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.
I "hate" religion. IMO most religions are built on lies used to control. I do believe in one highest power, every day of my life I get on my knees and pray at least twice, I pray when I eat; nothing. Because those are just my actions I agree that is spirituality.
When something reaches on in your mind and says "yo"; that is religious IMO.
Right on man - I'm looking for one too - also looking to be abducted by aliens.Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, see above definitions. I can give you a religious experience but if you aren't confortable in your own skin it's gonna get ugly quick ha ha. It's not a hobby, or something out of the blue, The first time it was oit of the blue and very scary i was 17 I'm pretty sure the equation is:
Keep on truckin!
Prayer+daily meditation+restricted diet+ study of scripture + refraint from things you know to be Un-pure (thoughts and actions)+ Humbleness + destiny = life altering interaction with divinity Id define as a religious experience
Edit: thank you for reading it, I'll make alterations and additions. Sometimes I get taken with putting something down and there is nothing I can do til it's done. Seriously appreciate that you took the time to read it and give me your opinion
Can any of you .net search experts find that thread??
I looked at my buddy who was transfixed on the stage and I realized there were people kneeling down all around me in their own way. They were praying and as far as I could tell, each one had taken it upon themselves, not realizing many others had felt moved to do the same. I shit you not, the burliest meanest looking Tool fans started getting on their knees and praying during some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard a band play. I didn't pray, but I knew what was up. Maynard and Tool had made a moment, just like Phish, and many fans saw it as a channel to a higher power, so they showed their respect.
Tool. I'll never forget it.
I hung out with a nun.The nuns at my grade school had shaved heads under their habits. They were creepy as f***.
Well, what looked like a nun.
Thank you for your insight, there is a line here that needs to be defined, I've had lots of "God" trips ha ha very rarely is a divine presence active outside my brain that is personally distinguishable from the ordinary.
Was his chick doin blow in the BR w dude? Bet she was lil trolop ha ha; what did you think about watching that go down? Did you have presence of mind? Could you help him? Did you resist helping him?
Comments are really helping bring back the experience, I left quite a bit out that was supernatural.
I have only been to one Phish show and one Trey show. I got into the game far too late. However taking the experience of my one and only show, the spirit was definitely moving. I read the bible and all that jazz and I always look back on what Jesus teaches about the community of Christ and the body. I believe that the body of Christ and his presence are constant. Obviously not everyone shares the same faith that I do, however I feel that there are certainly spiritual experiences to be had at shows. I felt mine in the joy that was in the air. We are promised happiness through Christ and community in many ways. I felt everyone around me, all of these beings in a show, are my brothers and sisters and while we may not be worshiping anything or the same God, we are certainly connected by some metaphysical principle, I just happen to call mine Christ.
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This is my two cents. I'm not trying to preach but this is how I feel. I grew up a Christian and I can firmly say that being at a Phish show can be a religious/spiritual experience. This is how it affected me.That's awesome. Thank you for sharing.
I have only been to one Phish show and one Trey show. I got into the game far too late. However taking the experience of my one and only show, the spirit was definitely moving. I read the bible and all that jazz and I always look back on what Jesus teaches about the community of Christ and the body. I believe that the body of Christ and his presence are constant. Obviously not everyone shares the same faith that I do, however I feel that there are certainly spiritual experiences to be had at shows. I felt mine in the joy that was in the air. We are promised happiness through Christ and community in many ways. I felt everyone around me, all of these beings in a show, are my brothers and sisters and while we may not be worshiping anything or the same God, we are certainly connected by some metaphysical principle, I just happen to call mine Christ.
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I am technically Christian, my analysis of scripture relies on metaphor rather than literal interpretation.
What if you interpreted this literally? Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Indeed Christ is the branch that I've found a tree of knowledge. I always got a kick out of Bart Simpson's opinion on religion, roughly "deathbed conversion to Christianity"
What if you interpreted this literally? Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.Well what aspect should I be interpreting? The "glory to another" part? If we look at that as a literal interpretation then I think it just follows the commandments, specifically the "Thou shalt not have any graven images before me." I think that "graven images" comes in a lot of different aspects and a lot of things. They can be whatever, sex, drugs, money and it basically says do your own thing but remember I am the one who created you therefore give me the praise for the things that make you happy.
Indeed Christ is the branch that I've found a tree of knowledge. I always got a kick out of Bart Simpson's opinion on religion, roughly "deathbed conversion to Christianity"
@Frizz said:I hung out with a nun.The nuns at my grade school had shaved heads under their habits. They were creepy as f***.
Well, what looked like a nun.
Well it was a hot nun. Not a real one.
6/28/00 set 2 pnc bank.
I have had one religious moment at a Tool concert. We were all rocking out, then they went to an ambiant segue and let us stew in it for about 15 min before Maynard started whispering comforting things a mother would say.Awesome story man. Where and when was this show?
I looked at my buddy who was transfixed on the stage and I realized there were people kneeling down all around me in their own way. They were praying and as far as I could tell, each one had taken it upon themselves, not realizing many others had felt moved to do the same. I shit you not, the burliest meanest looking Tool fans started getting on their knees and praying during some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard a band play. I didn't pray, but I knew what was up. Maynard and Tool had made a moment, just like Phish, and many fans saw it as a channel to a higher power, so they showed their respect.
Tool. I'll never forget it.
@Euclid said:Nov 14, 2007 Austin, TXI have had one religious moment at a Tool concert. We were all rocking out, then they went to an ambiant segue and let us stew in it for about 15 min before Maynard started whispering comforting things a mother would say.Awesome story man. Where and when was this show?
I looked at my buddy who was transfixed on the stage and I realized there were people kneeling down all around me in their own way. They were praying and as far as I could tell, each one had taken it upon themselves, not realizing many others had felt moved to do the same. I shit you not, the burliest meanest looking Tool fans started getting on their knees and praying during some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard a band play. I didn't pray, but I knew what was up. Maynard and Tool had made a moment, just like Phish, and many fans saw it as a channel to a higher power, so they showed their respect.
Tool. I'll never forget it.
It was the interlude before Wings if I remember correctly. The ambiance was about 7min, not 15. The sound mix was so incredible, the music reached out and physically grabbed us. It was awesome.... I was sooo high.
I have all the respect for those who don't share my beliefs. Anyone is entitled to what they believe but Bill Maher is a f***ing asshole. He is to Atheism what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dngWGygi8I
And this. Bill Maher cracks me up.
On September 25 2012, I was given my answer. Perhaps there is/was a reason why I hear these beautiful voices singing. Perhaps these voices have been guiding me somewhere, to something that I would only know when I arrived. There was meaning here.
The moment my brother died, I was listening to this song (I did not know it at the time but the coroner report confirmed it). During the jam, I was feeling things I had never, ever felt before - these intense out-of-body experiences. They were not negative but they were not positive - they were just weird in the sense that what I was feeling and experiencing was completely unique and inexplicable. It was not human - or maybe it was exactly human. Maybe feeling what I felt is precisely what it means to be alive; not the taste of food or the feeling of rain or sunshine, not the sound of music or the color of the sky... maybe truly being alive is feeling the moment when your body, mind, and soul converge to a single point for a single purpose.
I have listened to this jam hundreds of times, each time getting goosebumps and shivers down my spine... but this time was different, so different. So much deeper. It went beyond music. It went beyond listening and beyond bodily responses to stimulus. I felt as though I was soaring through infinite. My body was weightless, my mind was sharp, and my soul was busy, frantically searching for something. As the jam progressed and picked up, so did these feelings. I could feel the cosmic wind whipping against my face as my mind was perceiving shapes, patterns, colors, and sensations with precision I simply cannot define nor describe, and my soul was on a journey at a torrid pace, leading me somewhere, to something. I had no choice but to keep my eyes closed and follow, so I did.
The jam peaked. Every cell, quark, and string in my body exploded with an emotion. Not sadness, not happiness, not confusion, and not confidence - just unified raw energy that was so amazingly intense and undefinable. Waves of this kept washing over my unified mind/body/soul. I was ablaze in space. I was connected to everything, yet, one single explanation was escaping me. Why was this happening this time? I had listened to this song so many times and never had anything remotely close to this happen to me... not just through this song. but ever, in any capacity in my life. Was it drugs? No, I was sober. Was it emotion? No, I was content. Was it stress? No, I was calm. Was it religion? No, I believe in life and love. What was it? Why was this happening?
I found out the next morning that Ryan had died the previous night. Everything became clear. I knew what I had been hearing. I knew what I had been feeling. I knew where I was going. I was indeed being guided by something, to something - I believe it. I was being guided to the place where Ryan transitioned to. I had been preparing nearly tens years for the journey and I made it. I was taken on an adventure so that I could see that wherever Ryan ended up, he was alright: he was safe and he was happy. He was no longer on this planet, but he is still alive in the universe. Nine years of goosebumps, raised hairs, and shockwaves running down my spine led me to my brother.
So whenever I want to talk to him, or see him, or just know that he is doing okay, I know exactly what to do. I put on 2.14.03 Bathtub Gin and let the music take me to him, every time.
2.14.03 Bathtub Gin is my most surreal, spiritual Phish moment. I swear I hear angels/sirens/something inexplicable and not-produced-by-a-musical-instrument from about 16:45-18:15, every time I listen. It gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. I could never quite explain the feeling other than how amazing, wondrous, and super-human it feels. But what was it? What is it? Why do I feel it so consistently, so intensely...That's deep man. I'm sorry to hear about your brother.
On September 25 2012, I was given my answer. Perhaps there is/was a reason why I hear these beautiful voices singing. Perhaps these voices have been guiding me somewhere, to something that I would only know when I arrived. There was meaning here.
The moment my brother died, I was listening to this song (I did not know it at the time but the coroner report confirmed it). During the jam, I was feeling things I had never, ever felt before - these intense out-of-body experiences. They were not negative but they were not positive - they were just weird in the sense that what I was feeling and experiencing was completely unique and inexplicable. It was not human - or maybe it was exactly human. Maybe feeling what I felt is precisely what it means to be alive; not the taste of food or the feeling of rain or sunshine, not the sound of music or the color of the sky... maybe truly being alive is feeling the moment when your body, mind, and soul converge to a single point for a single purpose.
I have listened to this jam hundreds of times, each time getting goosebumps and shivers down my spine... but this time was different, so different. So much deeper. It went beyond music. It went beyond listening and beyond bodily responses to stimulus. I felt as though I was soaring through infinite. My body was weightless, my mind was sharp, and my soul was busy, frantically searching for something. As the jam progressed and picked up, so did these feelings. I could feel the cosmic wind whipping against my face as my mind was perceiving shapes, patterns, colors, and sensations with precision I simply cannot define nor describe, and my soul was on a journey at a torrid pace, leading me somewhere, to something. I had no choice but to keep my eyes closed and follow, so I did.
The jam peaked. Every cell, quark, and string in my body exploded with an emotion. Not sadness, not happiness, not confusion, and not confidence - just unified raw energy that was so amazingly intense and undefinable. Waves of this kept washing over my unified mind/body/soul. I was ablaze in space. I was connected to everything, yet, one single explanation was escaping me. Why was this happening this time? I had listened to this song so many times and never had anything remotely close to this happen to me... not just through this song. but ever, in any capacity in my life. Was it drugs? No, I was sober. Was it emotion? No, I was content. Was it stress? No, I was calm. Was it religion? No, I believe in life and love. What was it? Why was this happening?
I found out the next morning that Ryan had died the previous night. Everything became clear. I knew what I had been hearing. I knew what I had been feeling. I knew where I was going. I was indeed being guided by something, to something - I believe it. I was being guided to the place where Ryan transitioned to. I had been preparing nearly tens years for the journey and I made it. I was taken on an adventure so that I could see that wherever Ryan ended up, he was alright: he was safe and he was happy. He was no longer on this planet, but he is still alive in the universe. Nine years of goosebumps, raised hairs, and shockwaves running down my spine led me to my brother.
So whenever I want to talk to him, or see him, or just know that he is doing okay, I know exactly what to do. I put on 2.14.03 Bathtub Gin and let the music take me to him, every time.
The peak of the 8/24/12 slave is when I got IT. I mean the rest of the show was great, don't get me wrong. I've been a huge listener since late 2010. When I caught the Phish bug I caught it HARD. This was my first show, and the peak of that slave, the lights, the moment. It was something I'll never forget. Long live the Phish.
2.14.03 Bathtub Gin is my most surreal, spiritual Phish moment. I swear I hear angels/sirens/something inexplicable and not-produced-by-a-musical-instrument from about 16:45-18:15, every time I listen. It gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. I could never quite explain the feeling other than how amazing, wondrous, and super-human it feels. But what was it? What is it? Why do I feel it so consistently, so intensely...wow thanks for sharing that. the jams in 03 had so much 'gravity' as a i like to put it. A fitting song for that experience.
On September 25 2012, I was given my answer. Perhaps there is/was a reason why I hear these beautiful voices singing. Perhaps these voices have been guiding me somewhere, to something that I would only know when I arrived. There was meaning here.
The moment my brother died, I was listening to this song (I did not know it at the time but the coroner report confirmed it). During the jam, I was feeling things I had never, ever felt before - these intense out-of-body experiences. They were not negative but they were not positive - they were just weird in the sense that what I was feeling and experiencing was completely unique and inexplicable. It was not human - or maybe it was exactly human. Maybe feeling what I felt is precisely what it means to be alive; not the taste of food or the feeling of rain or sunshine, not the sound of music or the color of the sky... maybe truly being alive is feeling the moment when your body, mind, and soul converge to a single point for a single purpose.
I have listened to this jam hundreds of times, each time getting goosebumps and shivers down my spine... but this time was different, so different. So much deeper. It went beyond music. It went beyond listening and beyond bodily responses to stimulus. I felt as though I was soaring through infinite. My body was weightless, my mind was sharp, and my soul was busy, frantically searching for something. As the jam progressed and picked up, so did these feelings. I could feel the cosmic wind whipping against my face as my mind was perceiving shapes, patterns, colors, and sensations with precision I simply cannot define nor describe, and my soul was on a journey at a torrid pace, leading me somewhere, to something. I had no choice but to keep my eyes closed and follow, so I did.
The jam peaked. Every cell, quark, and string in my body exploded with an emotion. Not sadness, not happiness, not confusion, and not confidence - just unified raw energy that was so amazingly intense and undefinable. Waves of this kept washing over my unified mind/body/soul. I was ablaze in space. I was connected to everything, yet, one single explanation was escaping me. Why was this happening this time? I had listened to this song so many times and never had anything remotely close to this happen to me... not just through this song. but ever, in any capacity in my life. Was it drugs? No, I was sober. Was it emotion? No, I was content. Was it stress? No, I was calm. Was it religion? No, I believe in life and love. What was it? Why was this happening?
I found out the next morning that Ryan had died the previous night. Everything became clear. I knew what I had been hearing. I knew what I had been feeling. I knew where I was going. I was indeed being guided by something, to something - I believe it. I was being guided to the place where Ryan transitioned to. I had been preparing nearly tens years for the journey and I made it. I was taken on an adventure so that I could see that wherever Ryan ended up, he was alright: he was safe and he was happy. He was no longer on this planet, but he is still alive in the universe. Nine years of goosebumps, raised hairs, and shockwaves running down my spine led me to my brother.
So whenever I want to talk to him, or see him, or just know that he is doing okay, I know exactly what to do. I put on 2.14.03 Bathtub Gin and let the music take me to him, every time.
That Bill Maher video was nothing personally just for jokes. I just don't believe in anything. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9l7mfF511rxwarf.gifI dug it, it's a pertinent question for people who claim to "know" things based on faith. You catch the south park where they found out jesus was using HGH?
"Christ has shamed us all...." haha
i guess i should have read all your guys complaining and the said how i feel..
i still feel like a tool...sharp, pointed and effective
That Bill Maher video was nothing personally just for jokes. I just don't believe in anything. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9l7mfF511rxwarf.gifno worries brah
@Superballin said:The Lance Armstrong one yeah. I love what they (Trey and Matt) have done with religion. They made a musical completely based on bashing Mormons and its all true, and it's been #1 on Broadway for months.That Bill Maher video was nothing personally just for jokes. I just don't believe in anything. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9l7mfF511rxwarf.gifI dug it, it's a pertinent question for people who claim to "know" things based on faith. You catch the south park where they found out jesus was using HGH?
"Christ has shamed us all...." haha
@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:Fucking Isaac Hayes left the show over all of that and they ripped him a new one in retaliation. To be fair though they've taken a few shots at atheists too.@Superballin said:The Lance Armstrong one yeah. I love what they (Trey and Matt) have done with religion. They made a musical completely based on bashing Mormons and its all true, and it's been #1 on Broadway for months.That Bill Maher video was nothing personally just for jokes. I just don't believe in anything. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9l7mfF511rxwarf.gifI dug it, it's a pertinent question for people who claim to "know" things based on faith. You catch the south park where they found out jesus was using HGH?
"Christ has shamed us all...." haha
@Superballin said:The Book of Mormon is one of the funniest thing's I have ever heard.@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:Fucking Isaac Hayes left the show over all of that and they ripped him a new one in retaliation. To be fair though they've taken a few shots at atheists too.@Superballin said:The Lance Armstrong one yeah. I love what they (Trey and Matt) have done with religion. They made a musical completely based on bashing Mormons and its all true, and it's been #1 on Broadway for months.That Bill Maher video was nothing personally just for jokes. I just don't believe in anything. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9l7mfF511rxwarf.gifI dug it, it's a pertinent question for people who claim to "know" things based on faith. You catch the south park where they found out jesus was using HGH?
"Christ has shamed us all...." haha
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