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Peezy Permalink
Peezy Only gettin high off phish now. Stupid drug court
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Jayem Permalink
Jayem @Peezy said:
Only gettin high off phish now. Stupid drug court
Phish wouldn't be touring if it wasn't for drug court!

I bet Trey thought it was stupid at first also.



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WordsFromASong Permalink
WordsFromASong Sobriety. It's what's for dinner.
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Palmer Permalink
Palmer Agreed.
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ITSnICE Permalink
ITSnICE drug court > jail/prison
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Peezy Permalink
Peezy @ITSnICE said:
drug court > jail/prison
True that, i already was sanction for a cople weeks for pissin dirty but im changing my life around starting today! and not only am i doing this for me but mostly doing it for them so i can tour this summer n shit.
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Palmer Permalink
Palmer I am personally amazed I did not ever get charged with anything during my drunken moments on this Earth, I did however have to do the road side Olympics several times, and scored Gold Medals in each event* I never drove drunk, but one time in college got stopped on foot for "running". Yes I was a wasted mess coming back from the bar around 2:15am in the dead of winter wearing a t shirt and was pulled over on campus, just like I was driving a car spot light on me and everything it was really weird. I was looking around like what the hell is going on? I was let go with a warning from Public Intox.
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Palmer Permalink
Palmer I use to follow the pints now I follow the yellow balloons.
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller Dude. It's against your God given rights to get f***ed up; is your PO cool? Mine only got pissed about coke or opiates; and I've had 4 PO's.

I'd rather do 30 in county (depending on county) than a year of probation.

Good luck though bro, everything happens for a reason. The best part about being sober imo is the tremendous drop in tolerance you get ha ha, seriously good luck to ya.
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WordsFromASong Permalink
WordsFromASong I've driven drunk a lot. One NY I was so blitzed I was actually seeing triple driving on the highway. Thank the good Lord I never hit any thing/killed anyone. I consider this up their on the most heinous things I've done in my life.
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller @Jayem said:
@Peezy said:
Only gettin high off phish now. Stupid drug court

Phish wouldn't be touring if it wasn't for drug court!
I bet Trey thought it was stupid at first also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4zhGYRXxUk
Wow. I can relate to things that he said, goin to jail sucks and 90% of the people in jail/prison blame someone else and are addicts. Idk. Idk. Jack Keroac died at like 47 from alcoholism. His buddy Cassidy strung out on uppers died laying on railroad tracks at 42, Idk man. Addiction is a bad motherfucker, idk. Idk. Huh. I do know that trey seems like one of the most humble people I've ever heard, sounds like a nice guy; but addicts are a tricky lot. Idk. I hope trey is happy and healthy. all for treatment vs imprisonment, got me thinking deep. Awesome share bro
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spencur6 Permalink
spencur6 And why is not doing drugs so awful? I am being serious. I hate to say it but do you really need drugs? I mean yeah they make things different but if you really can't alter your perspective or have fun without substance help are you really having fun? Think of it this way I am constantly told that shrooms would change my perspective on life...I doubt this. Why? Because think about it I could alter my perspective by trying something new thats not drugs, or hanging around with someone else for a while. Doesn't have to be drugs.

tl/dr: I am that guy that is about to get bitched at for saying I don't need drugs...
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WordsFromASong Permalink
WordsFromASong You'll get nothing but love from me, @spencur6. Good for you! I'm not always sober, but I completely respect your choice.
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spencur6 Permalink
spencur6 @WordsFromASong said:
You'll get nothing but love from me, @spencur6. Good for you! I'm not always sober, but I completely respect your choice.
me either. I drink. I partake in tobacco upon occasion (i bought a hookah and it has its fair share of use under its belt). And Frankly weed for me is special occasions only. usually every 5-6 months if that. but its not something i rely on for fun.
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller I find it hard to believe that marijuana was not smoked in that slanty looking shed, further I would have a hard time believing that drugs did not play a part in the creation of the some of the most beautiful sounds I've ever heard.

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spencur6 Permalink
spencur6 @careful_w_that_axe_Miller said:
I find it hard to believe that marijuana was not smoked in that slanty looking shed, further I would have a hard time believing that drugs did not play a part in the creation of the some of the most beautiful sounds I've ever heard.
I'm sure they did. But thats a rare case. You can argue acid makes you creative like the beatles...only difference is the beatles possessed talent before drugs...kinda like a certain red headed guitarist I know about.
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ThatPharGone Permalink
ThatPharGone @spencur6 said:
And why is not doing drugs so awful? I am being serious. I hate to say it but do you really need drugs? I mean yeah they make things different but if you really can't alter your perspective or have fun without substance help are you really having fun? Think of it this way I am constantly told that shrooms would change my perspective on life...I doubt this. Why? Because think about it I could alter my perspective by trying something new thats not drugs, or hanging around with someone else for a while. Doesn't have to be drugs.

tl/dr: I am that guy that is about to get bitched at for saying I don't need drugs...
while i respect where youre coming from, this is exactly how i felt before i tried shrooms
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller @spencur6, you've never eaten mushrooms and you are relating an opinion about them? Ha ha

Didn't you just say yesterday you hoped bieber would be murdered? Sounds like your a young person, I admire your choices but don't pull the holier than thou bs ha ha cause ya got no clue
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spencur6 Permalink
spencur6 @careful_w_that_axe_Miller said:
@spencur6, you've never eaten mushrooms and you are relating an opinion about them? Ha ha

Didn't you just say yesterday you hoped bieber would be murdered? Sounds like your a young person, I admire your choices but don't pull the holier than thou bs ha ha cause ya got no clue
I didn't say I hoped he was murdered I just said it wouldn't put damper on my day. I am contributing an opinion. you can -1 me if you want. I am just saying so what if you can't do drugs? but hey I've seen more obscene stuff posted on this site.
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WordsFromASong Permalink
WordsFromASong I didn't get holier than thou from his statement. I think he makes a great point that meeting new people can change a person's life as much as any drug.
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd Agreed.
As much as they are accepted in our community and have the potential to have amazing effects, psychadelics are not for everyone, not by a long shot.
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JayDubya Permalink
JayDubya Drugs are an individual choice and no one should be ridiculed for the choice they make.
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller I agree @johnnyd, sage advice. @wordsfromasong, depending on the instances and environment I would have diffulcty understanding if you hadn't at least one profound revelation while under the influence.

@spencur6, I modded @billybatts, yesterday it was my 58th mod and I feel guilty. I wouldn't mod you for your opinion. I can't convey how psychedelics alter perception in under 2500 words; but the manner with which they do alter perception is unique from any other method.
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007below Permalink
007below sober phish shows are good phish shows
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WordsFromASong Permalink
WordsFromASong Oh yeah, I've had profound experiences/revelations on shrooms. But also sober: in a beautiful natural area, in bed with a man, experiencging the death/birth of a loved one, during talks with friends, in prayer, driving down the road, and on and on.
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fanman900 Permalink
fanman900 @007below said:
sober phish shows are good phish shows
So so true. Just gotta rage super hard to get high on endorphins.

@Peezy you got this shit brother. I know you're strong, and it may be hard. You made your choices, and you will always be able to make those choices again, but for now just be content with the consequences that came from your previous choices. We're here for you brother. This tokes for you.
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bigsky Permalink
What goes up must come down. Find balance in your sobriety and enjoy life.
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MiguelSanchez Permalink
MiguelSanchez @JayDubya said:
Drugs are an individual choice and no one should be ridiculed for the choice they make.
unless they are throwing their life away and getting overly randy. maybe ridicule isn't appropriate, but criticism sure is.

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JayDubya Permalink
JayDubya @MiguelSanchez said:
@JayDubya said:
Drugs are an individual choice and no one should be ridiculed for the choice they make.
unless they are throwing their life away and getting overly randy. maybe ridicule isn't appropriate, but criticism sure is.
Yes
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MiguelSanchez Permalink
MiguelSanchez @007below said:
sober phish shows are good phish shows
i went to something like 20 of my first 24 or 25 shows sober. the music was soooo overwhelming i didn't feel i needed them. this is not because i did not do them away from phish or while listening to phish. if phish was whipping out a monster mike's song or yem, I wanted my head to be where it should be.
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MiguelSanchez Permalink
MiguelSanchez @Peezy

how long you in the drug court? i've never done drug court but i have endured to 6 month stretches of court ordered sobriety, once when i was 15 and one a couple years back. it's no fun, but soon enough, it will be a thing of the past for you. keep your head up, STAY CLEAN, and get the f*** through it!! you're good player!!
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n00b100 Permalink
n00b100 I've been straight edge my entire life, and I can say the biggest challenge for me wasn't being tempted (I've never really been tempted - having people I love fall prey to various addictions didn't help either) so much as it was not passing judgment on those that did choose to partake in drugs. These days I think I've gotten to a good "to each his own" place in that regard, but mainly with stuff like weed and (to a degree) mushrooms, things that are more psychedelic than anything else. I still think people that do coke and shoot heroin need to not do that.
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freerwilson Permalink
freerwilson You can do it @Peezy if you really want it.

Living sober is the best choice I ever made. As a raging alcoholic/addict, my choice was very clear: lose my wife, kids, job, and home - or try rehab/recovery and work very hard at staying sober. I have been completely sober for 8 years now and my life is wonderful with a great family and enough money to travel from MT to see a few Phish shows every year, and all the other good shit that comes with being clear headed and energetic.

I respect anyone's choice to use or not to use. I don't think there is really a right or wrong way to do it unless you are really harming yourself or others, and the way you feel is the best indicator. Many of the funnest times in my life were full-on benders,but the latest ones have been of the natural/spiritual type which includes Phish shows.

If you really want to stay sober but can't, I suggest a 12-step program like AA or NA. There are many people in your area with experiences similar to yours who are willing to help for free.
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atomx Permalink
atomx im 11 months into what should of been a 15 month drug court program but will end up being 17 months when i finish, anyways really glad im not drinking anymore, dont play on drinking again, cant wait to smoke bud again but it feels really nice to have some clarity and let all that smoke clear and not be dependent on substances to function happily in daily life, like you said about the dirty UA's its not the time to f*** around so just stay clean and get high on life, there will be plenty of doobies at the finish line, best of luck to you
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twisty_m Permalink
twisty_m I go to ALANON - An affiliation of AA and NA for friends and family members of drug addicts and/or alcoholics. I'm a single mother of an 8 year old son, and If someone hit and killed me as a result of being drunk and driving (or my son being a passenger), I would haunt them. Just saying. I also respect anyone's decision to drink or dabble in drugs, but it shouldn't be taken on the road. I probably am going to get thumbs downed for this comment, or ridiculed in some manner.

I'm just saying, as a parent, who can't make the decision of someone getting in their car drunk, don't do it; That's what cabs are for. If you are driving drunk, it's not responsible. End of story.

Bad things have happened in my life as a result of drunk drivers. It's a touchy, soft subject with me.
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GhostlikeSwayze Permalink
GhostlikeSwayze @spencur6 said:
And why is not doing drugs so awful? I am being serious. I hate to say it but do you really need drugs? I mean yeah they make things different but if you really can't alter your perspective or have fun without substance help are you really having fun? Think of it this way I am constantly told that shrooms would change my perspective on life...I doubt this. Why? Because think about it I could alter my perspective by trying something new thats not drugs, or hanging around with someone else for a while. Doesn't have to be drugs.

tl/dr: I am that guy that is about to get bitched at for saying I don't need drugs...
When people tell you shrooms will change your perspective on life, they hopefully don't mean shrooms are the only thing that will change your life. Of course trying something new, meeting new people, being in nature, hearing a song, etc. can all change your life drastically. I'm just failing to see why pyschadelic mushrooms, which have undeniably changed the lives of thousands, wouldn't also be something to change your perspective.
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The_Stallion Permalink
The_Stallion I go to Phish concerts sober by choice and the music f***s my face. I get high from the music. Just let go. Next thing you know, you are high as f*** and when you look down at your body you realize that you have been dancing for quite some time. I know it sounds cliche but the music alone literally takes me to 'that place.' I love Phish.
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twisty_m Permalink
twisty_m @The_Stallion said:
I go to Phish concerts sober by choice and the music f***s my face. I get high from the music. Just let go. Next thing you know, you are high as f*** and when you look down at your body you realize that you have been dancing for quite some time. I know it sounds cliche but the music alone literally takes me to 'that place.' I love Phish.
I enjoy my sober shows much more than my high shows. I can't stress that enough!
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dave25 Permalink
Alight drugs are drugs and I feel as though I accept them as a concert enhancer. I don't have a problem with them but this is coming from a kid who has only dosed once and that was at super ball i gave into some pure pressure from a buddy and did. Never did the whole shroom thing although I would like to just for one show when the time is right that is... I usually just drink a lot at shows which lets not forget is a drug too... Conclusion being I don't hate drugs don't like them either I'm neutral but please just don't drive when f***ed up that shit hits too close to home
Hate on my opinion all you want if you disagree
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller I should say that drugs and alcohol have seemingly ravaged my life ha ha, its been really hard to get where I am right now, we all have our paths however and it's no one's right to decide "for you" what you should do.(drug court seems "just" to me) Take advantage of the clean time out of jail; or go to jail and you'll understand "clean time" --without nicotine, alcohol or pussy; defecating beside an 18yr illiterate gang member from Detroit who you cannot help.

You can get pretty high meditating man, 100% true. Also there are drugs that can't be tested for and aren't on the DEA list yet; blessed thistle is one and it grows wild.

Good luck man, if you need a buzz look organic first please, need help please let me.
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WordsFromASong Permalink
WordsFromASong @twisty_m @dave25
Agreed 100%. Just to be clear, my drunk driving was many years ago when I was young and careless. It is definitely something I am ashamed of and would never do again. ;) if it sounded like I thought it was funny or something, that was not my intent at all.
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dave25 Permalink
@WordsFromASong said:
@twisty_m @dave25
Agreed 100%. Just to be clear, my drunk driving was many years ago when I was young and careless. It is definitely something I am ashamed of and would never do again. ;) if it sounded like I thought it was funny or something, that was not my intent at all.

Not at all it's understandable that it was a terriable miss judgement. But it's hard for me to pass up an opertunity too give people a a reminder. Mommy moded
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twisty_m Permalink
twisty_m @wordsfromasong - Aw, I'm really sorry. I wasn't directing that at you, and I totally read your whole comment on this thread about how you believe it was the most heinous thing you have done. A lot of people are guilty of that.

I would definitely, totally be that crazy bitch that would come back and haunt someone though. Totally.

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mfhgreyboy Permalink
mfhgreyboy @twisty_m said:
II also respect anyone's decision to drink or dabble in drugs, but it shouldn't be taken on the road. I probably am going to get thumbs downed for this comment, or ridiculed in some manner.
Why you feel like this would open you up to criticism is beyond me. I'm no angel, with a DUI in my back pocket and so many "should haves" that it's embarrassing, but thankfully that's in my past (in mid-January I hope to be able to celebrate 3 years without a drink) and I will gladly second any call for reduced drunk/drugged driving. Which, with some thoughtful advanced planning, shouldn't be nearly the huge problem that it is.
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dave25 Permalink
@WordsFromASong in no way shape or form was I takeing a shot at you. Don't get that twisted
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WordsFromASong Permalink
WordsFromASong Cool. Just really wanted to be clear on that.
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