Technically atheists should value their lives more, because we don't get to go to big rock candy mountain when we keel over,
Atheists believe that no one gets to do that. It's the same for everyone, atheist or not.
@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:Yeah, that was sarcasmTechnically atheists should value their lives more, because we don't get to go to big rock candy mountain when we keel over,
Atheists believe that no one gets to do that. It's the same for everyone, atheist or not.
Death as an illusion
Edit: I should add this too.
“The influences of the senses,” said Ralph Waldo Emerson “has in most men overpowered the mind to the degree that the walls of space and time have come to look solid, real and insurmountable; and to speak with levity of these limits in the world is the sign of insanity.”
I think about death all the time. I think the lights are out when you are dead and that is that. True peace sums it up, @the_crest_hogchoker. I do go through periods where I get angry that death will come, and that I didn't or won't get to do the exact things I was meant to, or the career I was meant to have, etc. To me, when death comes, and hopefully at a very old age, It will feel so nice - Peaceful and right.Thinking about death is pretty much the core issue of philosophy. The fact that life ends makes death the focal point for defining meaning. If you take away the hysteria and mythology surrounding it, its a very beautiful thing to think about. It makes everything mean what it means, in a personal sense.
I think about death all the time. I think the lights are out when you are dead and that is that. True peace sums it up, @the_crest_hogchoker. I do go through periods where I get angry that death will come, and that I didn't or won't get to do the exact things I was meant to, or the career I was meant to have, etc. To me, when death comes, and hopefully at a very old age, It will feel so nice - Peaceful and right.This basically sums up what I think but I think death is really scary whether it is right or not haha. I will probably change my mind but it is a really serious thing especially when a person is closer to it than further away from it, I'm 20 so I don't really feel like I have to worry about it but simultaneously I do anyway.
I often think about regular people in history. You know some summarian sheep herder or some greek soldier fighting and losing his life for a cause that I'll never know and to him it meant his life. Weirdly I find comfort in that.
"and the seeds that were silent
all burst into bloom and decay"
Do the best you can with what you have, and cheers!
I'm also atheist and I don't fear death really. I fear the suffering that might come along with it. And I would probably freak out if a doc told me I was gonna die soon simply because I love life so much.
But I find the idea that when I die I will just cease to exist to be oddly comforting.
But I find the idea that when I die I will just cease to exist to be oddly comforting.
Millions of years ago the particles that make you up were dispersed among the cosmos. For what is less then a blink in the universes' eye they all met to make you. In another million years they will be back amongest the cosmos. There is something spiritual in that science.I always wonder if I ever drank a molecule of water that jesus or julius caesar or davinci also drank. Then I wonder what the possibility of me drinking the same molecule twice would be. Then I put the bong down.
I often think about regular people in history. You know some summarian sheep herder or some greek soldier fighting and losing his life for a cause that I'll never know and to him it meant his life. Weirdly I find comfort in that.
"and the seeds that were silent
all burst into bloom and decay"
Although, if Killer Clowns From Outer Space turn out to be real, and I met one, I'd probably shit my face off.
Sounds weird,but it was OK.
No,i am not afraid of death.
If i'm afraid,it is of a prolonged painful time before death.
But I have no idea what happens when we die. I just hope my brain stays intact so I experience shut down.
What's worse? Leaving a party that's still going on, or staying at a party that never ever ever ends?
I can't wait to see Jesus come down from heaven and punch every one of you so hard right in the balls. And then he'll apologize, and you will finally believe.
I can't wait to see Jesus come down from heaven and punch every one of you so hard right in the balls. And then he'll apologize, and you will finally believe.I'll nut-smack his ass right back. Payback for the last ten months of my life.
At least I'll enjoy the ride. Never mind how I stumble and fall.
Death is the end, but perhaps a beginning as well. But, what comes afterwards, if anything, is probably beyond our ability to comprehend or describe. It could be a form of reincarnation, but I'd bet it isn't our consciousness as we know it today that will inhabit a frog like being on another planet or whatever, but our essence or lifeforce. A drop in the bucket of the whole of consciousness that is the universe in total. Like a grain of sand on an infinite beach.
Consciousness I think is collective and infinite, encompassing all matter and non-matter. Our brains are set up to limit our experience to a very narrow "slit" or super small amount of this consciousness in order to keep us from either going insane or being so overwhelmed we don't procreate and attempt to better ourselves.
anyway, that's a rough outline of what I think is going on. Most likely I am wrong but I am not concerned about death, only the suffering like someone else mentioned. So, yes, I am an athiest. Have been one since my teens.
I just got "outed" as an atheist today at work. My coworker was asking me all these questions and shit. Bible this...bible that... I did not like it. I think I am going to be treated differently from now on.I wear my atheism like a badge. I don't push it on people, but I'm not afraid to talk about it. The problem is that it is an academic conclusion and not necessarily a spiritual one, so your atheism alone is not just a designation, but also an immediate criticism of any given theist's intelligence. By telling people that you're an atheist, you're essentially stating that you don't believe in god because its illogical, which naturally translates to being called a moron if you're a theist.
But I have no idea what happens when we die. I just hope my brain stays intact so I experience shut down.
But the cool thing is, you get to experience what it is to be marginalized, which can be very valuable in understanding other people that you might not have had perspective on before.
I'd say be polite, professional and friendly, but stick to your guns. Things are only going to change when the people aren't afraid to believe unpopular ideas.
-Jim Morrison
"Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important."
-Steve Jobs
"The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time."
-Mark Twain
"I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated. "
-Tupac Shakur
"The fear of death is the most unjustified of all fears, for there's no risk of accident for someone who's dead. "
-Albert Einstein
“No one here gets out alive.” - Jim Morrison
@dealgodown said:Definitely stuck to my guns. There wasn't really anything they could say to my "why would I believe?" I think they did feel a little like a moron. He just could not comprehend that I dont care about the bible.I just got "outed" as an atheist today at work. My coworker was asking me all these questions and shit. Bible this...bible that... I did not like it. I think I am going to be treated differently from now on. But I have no idea what happens when we die. I just hope my brain stays intact so I experience shut down.I wear my atheism like a badge. I don't push it on people, but I'm not afraid to talk about it. The problem is that it is an academic conclusion and not necessarily a spiritual one, so your atheism alone is not just a designation, but also an immediate criticism of any given theist's intelligence. By telling people that you're an atheist, you're essentially stating that you don't believe in god because its illogical, which naturally translates to being called a moron if you're a theist. But the cool thing is, you get to experience what it is to be marginalized, which can be very valuable in understanding other people that you might not have had perspective on before. I'd say be polite, professional and friendly, but stick to your guns. Things are only going to change when the people aren't afraid to believe unpopular ideas.
The problem I feel is that I am not trying to offend or change anyone. He was the one asking me the questions that scared him. Now I look like a bad guy in a way.
I just got "outed" as an atheist today at work. My coworker was asking me all these questions and shit. Bible this...bible that... I did not like it. I think I am going to be treated differently from now on.Start documenting right now, depending the size of your company HR may be a person to contact. If they found out you were gay and acted like that it would mean $$$; that is inappropriate.
But I have no idea what happens when we die. I just hope my brain stays intact so I experience shut down.
@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:Yeah its a bummer, but that's just the way she goes sometimes. You can't win 'em all, especially when you're fighting an idea that's been embedded in people's brains over the course of 2000 years.@dealgodown said:Definitely stuck to my guns. There wasn't really anything they could say to my "why would I believe?" I think they did feel a little like a moron. He just could not comprehend that I dont care about the bible.I just got "outed" as an atheist today at work. My coworker was asking me all these questions and shit. Bible this...bible that... I did not like it. I think I am going to be treated differently from now on. But I have no idea what happens when we die. I just hope my brain stays intact so I experience shut down.I wear my atheism like a badge. I don't push it on people, but I'm not afraid to talk about it. The problem is that it is an academic conclusion and not necessarily a spiritual one, so your atheism alone is not just a designation, but also an immediate criticism of any given theist's intelligence. By telling people that you're an atheist, you're essentially stating that you don't believe in god because its illogical, which naturally translates to being called a moron if you're a theist. But the cool thing is, you get to experience what it is to be marginalized, which can be very valuable in understanding other people that you might not have had perspective on before. I'd say be polite, professional and friendly, but stick to your guns. Things are only going to change when the people aren't afraid to believe unpopular ideas.
The problem I feel is that I am not trying to offend or change anyone. He was the one asking me the questions that scared him. Now I look like a bad guy in a way.
I love what @the_crested_hogchoker said, "An lack of an afterlife is a beautiful thing... true peace."
I can't wait to see Jesus come down from heaven and punch every one of you so hard right in the balls. And then he'll apologize, and you will finally believe.pretty mean god you've got there-
And I actually still wouldn't believe even under those circumstances. There's no way of proving that he's not a demon, or an alien, or some other powerful unexplained being that has taken on the form of jesus in order to trick us all into servitude.
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