fervent FOURTH...NOW fervent FIFTH!

all hail, they are mayan prophets, announcing the passage from the fourth world into the fifth world, which if you had read the calenders correctly and know anything about cosmic time, actually happened two nights ago, not on 12/21/2012. so there it is. they have been waiting since their first ceremonies to celebrate that ceremony and introduce us to the 5th world. The end of the Piscean(fish) age and the beginning of the Aquarian age. Retirement? Who knows, but definitely announcing the much bigger Cosmic Celebration.

Psychedelic Ramblings? maybe so. and maybe not.

this is heavy

glad some of you took the time and the suspension of mundane mind to let this revelation in. there is something to it. No one is going to tell me that Phish created itself out of thin air on a whim. No, they were guided years ago to do this for a reason and we are all part of it. This was a very important, if not final, step in their journey with us, with the planet, with the muse of sound vibration, with the muse of celebration and ceremony and...most importantly...time... tick tock.. do do do do.. Be well all.

http://www.paradise2012.com/light/2012/2012.html

http://www.innertapestry.org/columns/perspectives-from-the-sky/1045-an-astrological-forecast-for-aquarian-age-consciousness-december-january-2012-2013.html

January 1st. 2013 will be another big year for healing and transformation, especially so because Uranus and Pluto, the instigators of the ‘60s revolution, make their first major contact with each other since then.
"I want to fly like an eagle
Till I'm free
Oh, Lord, through the revolution"

apparently it will apparently. apparently, your mind is apparent. a parent that tells the child of wonder and dream and possiblity to STFU and walk in line. do you make yourself march? do you calculate your emotions? does your world feel cold and lonely ever? apparently only logic can answer that.

"logic [came] into existence in man's head [out] of illogic, whose realm originally must have been immense. Innumerable beings who made inferences in a way different from ours perished". Thus there is the idea that logical inference has a use as a tool for human survival, but that its existence does not support the existence of truth, nor does it have a reality beyond the instrumental: "Logic, too, also rests on assumptions that do not correspond to anything in the real world". - F. Nietzsche

have fun with your logic.

humans were born to die. where's the logic there earthling?

The world is really all about the trees and the grass. Humans were meant to die because the world needs fertilizer. Its a dirty job but somebodys got to do it.

@boymangod said:

apparently it will apparently. apparently, your mind is apparent. a parent that tells the child of wonder and dream and possiblity to STFU and walk in line. do you make yourself march? do you calculate your emotions? does your world feel cold and lonely ever? apparently only logic can answer that.

"logic [came] into existence in man's head [out] of illogic, whose realm originally must have been immense. Innumerable beings who made inferences in a way different from ours perished". Thus there is the idea that logical inference has a use as a tool for human survival, but that its existence does not support the existence of truth, nor does it have a reality beyond the instrumental: "Logic, too, also rests on assumptions that do not correspond to anything in the real world". - F. Nietzsche

have fun with your logic.

humans were born to die. where's the logic there earthling?

Funny you should use Nietzsche in defense of pseudo-science. If there was ever anyone who condemned mysticism it was him. You're right, causality has its boundaries, but filling its holes with nonsense is not a path to enlightenment.

Mysticism is a term that we apply to the intangible forces applied to us every day. If you hang your hat on the science of what we understand than you own a small hat rack. The universe is composed of 90% dark matter- what's dark matter? A term over educated scientists put on the shit they don't get so they can get to sleep at night w/ their precious logic intact. The more you learn the less you know- that is why knowledge is the act of gathering information and wisdom is the act of letting it go...

Good stuff boymangod

I once saw a shirt that read:

"God is Dead" - Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is Dead" - God

I thought it was pretty funny.

@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:

@boymangod said:

apparently it will apparently. apparently, your mind is apparent. a parent that tells the child of wonder and dream and possiblity to STFU and walk in line. do you make yourself march? do you calculate your emotions? does your world feel cold and lonely ever? apparently only logic can answer that.

"logic [came] into existence in man's head [out] of illogic, whose realm originally must have been immense. Innumerable beings who made inferences in a way different from ours perished". Thus there is the idea that logical inference has a use as a tool for human survival, but that its existence does not support the existence of truth, nor does it have a reality beyond the instrumental: "Logic, too, also rests on assumptions that do not correspond to anything in the real world". - F. Nietzsche

have fun with your logic.

humans were born to die. where's the logic there earthling?

Funny you should use Nietzsche in defense of pseudo-science. If there was ever anyone who condemned mysticism it was him. You're right, causality has its boundaries, but filling its holes with nonsense is not a path to enlightenment.

Dead wrong Hog Choker. Nietzsche was a mystic. "Thus spoke Zarathustra" is a book about a mystics pursuit.

@boymangod, really enjoyed reading this.

Lost me here: "Ken Carey, apparently speaking on behalf of God, explains that The Creator is on its way to visit us here on planet Earth!"

Ha ha I hope Ken doesn't choose the stay puft marshmallow man as God's form.

@careful_w_that_axe_Miller said:

Further, it is in the tradition of Goethe "Faust"; Nietzsche was being sarcastic when he said God was dead, he was hating on the extremely corrupt church.

There is something bigger than the individual in this world, I can understand being afraid when confronted with things a person does not understand, or confronted with things that tear down a previously held value system. Astrology is likely 25000 years old, I can understand why an organized church or government would want to destroy astrology; I can understand why govt would want citizens who don't believe in anything but themselves too, so much easier to control.

Science allows for the existence of phenomena associated with astrology and alignment of celestial bodies.

It's not about being "afraid" to believe things, it's about being careful and not being taken in by bullshit that sounds vaguely interesting or appealing but has no factual basis. Obviously you have to balance that with making sure you keep an open mind and don't reject things out of hand just because they are outside your normal frame of reference, but you have to remain tethered to reality in the process. Otherwise the search for truth and meaning isn't a search at all, it's just a smorgasbord where you pick and choose whatever sounds good to you.

Whoa there Freud Dudes...Be Excellent To Each Other

@careful_w_that_axe_Miller said:

@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:

@boymangod said:

apparently it will apparently. apparently, your mind is apparent. a parent that tells the child of wonder and dream and possiblity to STFU and walk in line. do you make yourself march? do you calculate your emotions? does your world feel cold and lonely ever? apparently only logic can answer that.

"logic [came] into existence in man's head [out] of illogic, whose realm originally must have been immense. Innumerable beings who made inferences in a way different from ours perished". Thus there is the idea that logical inference has a use as a tool for human survival, but that its existence does not support the existence of truth, nor does it have a reality beyond the instrumental: "Logic, too, also rests on assumptions that do not correspond to anything in the real world". - F. Nietzsche

have fun with your logic.

humans were born to die. where's the logic there earthling?

Funny you should use Nietzsche in defense of pseudo-science. If there was ever anyone who condemned mysticism it was him. You're right, causality has its boundaries, but filling its holes with nonsense is not a path to enlightenment.

Dead wrong Hog Choker. Nietzsche was a mystic. "Thus spoke Zarathustra" is a book about a mystics pursuit.

I don't really think its the same kind of mysticism. One of the implications of the "god is dead" statement is the victory of empiricism over non-logic. I think the mysticism he is getting at is sort of a spirituality rooted in actual phenomena, which is not necessarily the same thing as explaining people's behavior by astrology or believing in spirit realms. I'd say its more of an attachment of spirituality to science over anything else. This is philosophy rooted in the 1800s, post enlightenment and the industrial revolution. Empirical study was finally beginning to come full swing- the ubermensch would find salvation without a god, or illogical spirituality through engaging with the discernable reality of the modern world.