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Is the universe a giant brain?

Busta_Move Permalink
Busta_Move This article is a little old, but this is the first that I've come across it, and it's interesting. So, without further ado;

The idea of the universe as a 'giant brain' has been proposed by scientists - and science fiction writers - for decades.

But now physicists say there may be some evidence that it's actually true. In a sense.

According to a study published in Nature's Scientific Reports, the universe may be growing in the same way as a giant brain - with the electrical firing between brain cells 'mirrored' by the shape of expanding galaxies.

The results of a computer simulation suggest that "natural growth dynamics" - the way that systems evolve - are the same for different kinds of networks - whether its the internet, the human brain or the universe as a whole.

A co-author of the study, Dmitri Krioukov from the University of California San Diego, said that while such systems appear very different, they have evolved in very similar ways.

The result, they argue, is that the universe really does grow like a brain.

The study raises profound questions about how the universe works, Krioukov said.

"For a physicist it's an immediate signal that there is some missing understanding of how nature works," he told Space.com.

The team's simulation modelled the very early life of the universe, shortly after the big bang, by looking at how quantum units of space-time smaller than subatomic particles 'networked' with each other as the universe grew.

They found that the simulation mirrored that of other networks. Some links between similar nodes resulted in limited growth, while others acted as junctions for many different connections.

For instance, some connections are limited and similar - like a person who likes sports visiting many other sports websites - and some are major and connect to many other parts of the network, like Google and Yahoo.

No, it doesn't quite mean that the universe is 'thinking' - but as has been previously pointed out online, it might just mean there's more similarity between the very small and the very large than first appearances suggest.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/27/physicists-universe-giant-brain_n_2196346.html
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patper Permalink
patper Right click -> view image to see the whole thing

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Busta_Move Permalink
Busta_Move That's so neat. I've always thought along these lines, and I'm pretty stoked that science is starting to show evidence that I'm right. :)
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roybelly Permalink
roybelly I find it ironic that a large part of our reality is defined by organization (prior to bang) moving toward chaos.....yet, there are tiny parts of the whole system running around out there organizing in spite of that....swimming upstream toward connection and order in a larger system that seems to be moving from organization to chaos

from the molecular level where unbalanced parts find other unbalanced parts to bond with and become stable.....to the simple act of hanging out with my friends.....swimming upstream

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missblue75 Permalink
missblue75 Ever since I learned about atoms and electrons protons neutrons etc as a little kid... I've likened it to the solar system. I feel like this thought has been in my head for as long as I can remember. I remember being very young, (3 or 4) and having the experience of being huge and tiny at the same time. It has everything to do with a Humpty Dumpty lamp on my dresser and being halfway between nap and wake. Feeling as though I were a microscopic speck, but if I were to reach out my hand would engulf the lamp. I also feel like that may be part of the reason I like alternate realities... want to recapture that feeling of being outside and inside at the same time.
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patper Permalink
patper I don't think it's coincidence that the model of the atom looks very similar to a solar system and a galaxy.
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cjfphan21 Permalink
cjfphan21 @Busta_Move Thanks for this. I've always (well, not always, but you know) thought of the universe as being one mind/consciousness so it would make sense that it would act like a brain, seeing as our brains are what enable to have the experience of consciousness.

@missblue75 I've often had trips (almost every one of them actually) where I experience that same duality you describe.
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Pockets_O_Houlihan Permalink
Pockets_O_Houlihan I think if anything that it's the other way around. We should be questioning is our brain a microscopic universe...?

to each there own.
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Dollop_of_Murk Permalink
Dollop_of_Murk Well, there's actually a chance it might be 10 branes. But I'm no physicist, I just play one on the internet.

Hamlet, nutshell, and so on.

(If the universe is a brain, it's one hell of a self-centered navel-gazer).

(I'm not a self-centered navel-gazer, I just play one on... oh, right. Nevermind).
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Euclid Permalink
Euclid Nanz. No one has proved that the universe is actually growing.

Note: Expanding is NOT the same as growing. Expansion spreads a static amount of something over a distance or time. An example would be stretching plastic wrap to cover a container. Growth is addition and assimilation of new unknowns, it's comprable to building a lego roof/enclosure for any given container, many small pieces serving one main purpose.
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familyberzerkr Permalink
If the universe is a giant brain, could global warming be cause by the owner of the giant brain smoking too much dope?
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missblue75 Permalink
missblue75 It's the infinite idea that I hold on to. The solar systems/galaxies/universe=atoms/cells/beings. I believed I could hear faint voices as a child and thinking it was just the people on my "planets".

In retrospect, I'm sure it was an early sign of my unique thinking. (Don't tell her, but those voices are from the beings of the plane of existence where SHE'S on the proton)

Which brings up another thought: alternate realities, parallel universes, and choose your own adventure novels... hmmm

::thinks::
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boymangod Permalink
"macrocosm/microcosm"

"we are all one"

"as above so below"

i love how modern science likes to, on occasion, take some little observation of theirs and use it to support some half-assed thesis that usually resembles ancient thought/belief, or eastern religious philosophy, as though it were a new though and all the time lacking the profundity and grace that comes from wisdom traditions.

here is one from the Zen tradition: "Not One, Not Two". think of the universal brain and then think of your local, personal brain and repeat that phrase. you'll figure it out.
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fluffhead42 Permalink
there are terms/words we havent developed yet because of our lack of knowledge of "the universe". for everything we know collectively as a society, there are millions of things we dont know. i dont think humans will ever fully understand and realize what the universe is, especially when we were designed in just 4 dimensions. the beings who live in the higher levels of dimensionality do. this life is just a step towards a new experience as a higher dimensional being, so long as you do well in this one. thats what i believe and thats how i live my life.
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23piper Permalink
23piper I think the entire universe is Spock's Brain.
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller @Euclid said:
Nanz. No one has proved that the universe is actually growing.

Note: Expanding is NOT the same as growing. Expansion spreads a static amount of something over a distance or time. An example would be stretching plastic wrap to cover a container. Growth is addition and assimilation of new unknowns, it's comprable to building a lego roof/enclosure for any given container, many small pieces serving one main purpose.
Growing was a poor choice of words, I agree, but that is semantics; would you agree that the premise is possible had the word been transforming?

::btw I was meaning to tell you that I like the bikes, just joking bout the eye sore::
::now I feel better::
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Bamajama Permalink
Bamajama Really cool stuff.
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DirtyAl1173 Permalink
DirtyAl1173 Ever watch NOVA on PBS? They delve into some of this territory sometimes and I love it! I love trying to wrap my brain around some new thought or idea.

My favorite part about the universe is that we've mapped what we can see. But due to the speed of light we can only "see" so far. And beyond that point is more universe yet to be discovered. Awesome.
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UbiquitousSmokey Permalink
UbiquitousSmokey @patper said:
I don't think it's coincidence that the model of the atom looks very similar to a solar system and a galaxy.
it is entirely a coincidence.

An atom is 3-D, the model that you are referring to is a 2D representation. The the electrions don't even always orbit in circular paths - it depends on their orbital (some can be figure 8 for example). The Planets all rotate around the sun on almost the same plane. Even at the most basic level, an electron doesn't orbit on one plane like a plate, but in a sphere like a ball.
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Busta_Move Permalink
Busta_Move @DirtyAl1173 said:
Ever watch NOVA on PBS? They delve into some of this territory sometimes and I love it! I love trying to wrap my brain around some new thought or idea.

My favorite part about the universe is that we've mapped what we can see. But due to the speed of light we can only "see" so far. And beyond that point is more universe yet to be discovered. Awesome.
Yeah NOVA is a great show.
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Busta_Move Permalink
Busta_Move This stuff is so fascinating.
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jOedOg Permalink
I remember reading or hearing somewhere that the human brain is by far the most complicated and sophisticated object in the known universe and that there are more neural connections in a single brain then there are atoms in the entire universe. Anyone else hear about this?
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