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No Doubt 12/30 II was the best set of the run but...

now_im_on_my_weigh Permalink
i still think tweezer is the best jam of the run, i hope and pray that 2013 builds on this organically smooth jam structure that they had been building up to all summer. Now i thought every show i saw this summer was awesome with many inspired segments, but the only show that really compares musically that i saw was star lake but still that didnt even compare to the level i feel they were on this run.

13/30/12 was also the best show ive ever seen bar none, didnt realize it until the car ride home but this was my 25th show (as well as my buddies) and it was perfect. I couldnt have asked for a better first set, my crew seriously got almost every song we had wanted them to play including:

Cities
Ride Captain Ride
Ocelot
Antelope
20 Years Later
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

We were at the back of the floor as we walked in to the opening chords of Jim which was pretty spacious at first but slowly started to fill in. On a completely serious note, in all my years i have never even bordered upon the heightened level of groove i was feeling that night let alone experienced it, funny thing is i was pretty much sober (as sober as i usually am at show, puffing mostly)

It was pretty straight until it started to get tight. I turned around to the guy behind me (who admittedly was grooving as hard as I was) and said that our dancing space was getting encroached and with the douchiest tone he said yeah by you. Ehhhh whatever, i dont really care but as it starts to get more packed, this asshat shoves his elbow in to my back during BOTT and some large fella was in front of me seriously dampening my groove, talk about being in between a rock and a hard place.

It cleared out fine for the second set which as my buddy so eloquently put it, "was phish on a level that ive never seen them" which is the best way to put it. It was everything i want with a show, like floating through some cosmic nebula blissfully approaching some brooding worm hole that shot us back to earth. That slave is prime, truly inspired. But when they came out for the encore and fish hit those opening beats for Hoood is when i lost it; damn near exploded with energy. Its been a phish dream to have a hood encore as one its my favorite song (blissful hood jam specifically) and I cant imagine a better song to send the crowd off feeling good, good, good about hood. Didnt mind >show of life but would have preferred just the hood

Life fulfilled, if i never see another show (god forbid!) i can say in terms of my expectations and experiences with phish, they took me from the valley to the mountaintop, in the way only phish can. Looking back and realizing it was my 25th show i find to be interesting as f***, like...it would the best show ive ever seen in terms of jams, setlist and encoring with my favorite song, it just f***ing would be.

Did not mean for this to turn in to storytime at all haha, but you know what they say, "GBs in the morning, pulled your smoke it brings me too my knees"
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dkast85 Permalink
dkast85 that Tweezer is lovely in the middle. I love the Carini but you may be right that Tweezer from 12/28 was a bit superior. I'll have to give them a few more listens.
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joyjoy Permalink
Yes on Tweezer.
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My_Powerful_Mind Permalink
puffing is not sober. sober is sober.
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JordanThePhisherman Permalink
JordanThePhisherman Agreed, 12/30=Better Show
12/28 Tweezer=Best Jam of the Run
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DanceTheJig728 Permalink
DanceTheJig728 All preference, personallly I enjoyed the Tweezer more than the Carini live. But listening back I'm starting to really appreciate the depth and darkness of that Carini jam. I just tend to be more of a fan of the jams that build up to a glorious peak like that Tweezer than I do the dark jams. Don't get me wrong though, I love the Phish darkness.

But IMO the DWD beats both.
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PhishDicks Permalink
PhishDicks There were a lot of douches in east ga. Ive never ran into so many ungrateful people at a phish show before. Widespread panic? Yeah. But phish, never. It's like they took there ticket for granted. Everyone else was chill though.
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WGphan92 Permalink
WGphan92 At first I thought the DWD kinda dragged on until it finally reached that jam in the final few minutes... But after listening many times since then I've noticed it's easily as good as the Carini. I can't pick a favorite though.

Well.., I can.... Carini.
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itsice88 Permalink
The Disease rewards when you listen back a couple of times. Tweezer flows very organically and reaches a thrilling peak, but the Disease is like a multi-layered composition. Both great, really.
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Phunky_Mango Permalink
Phunky_Mango IMO I think that the 2nd set 12/28 was the best of the run. Especially the Tweezer, Maze, and Bowie. All just fire. If the wolfmans brother was in that set then it would just be insane!
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Sprachtor Permalink
Sprachtor Original great phish is always better than great Phish we have heard before.
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Oblivious_Fool Permalink
Yea I have to go with @phunky_mango here. Thought 12/28 was best. Along with the tweezers and bowies there were raging mazes and twists and fluffheads....
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Skiguy Permalink
Skiguy Tweezer > Maze > Twist was a highlight for me!!
And Maze and Bowie same set is always cool!
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cjfphan21 Permalink
cjfphan21 @Phunky_Mango said:
IMO I think that the 2nd set 12/28 was the best of the run. Especially the Tweezer, Maze, and Bowie. All just fire. If the wolfmans brother was in that set then it would just be insane!
Sign'd

@Sprachtor Could you...elaborate?

Wait...I think I get what you're saying. Good point.
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GBrown Permalink
i'm in this boat
the second set as a whole 12/28 was better, for me, than the second set 12/30
the disease 20yrs carini was great and the slave was nice but i enjoyed everything on the 28th
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WookiePhart Permalink
Huh?
@Sprachtor said:
Original great phish is always better than great Phish we have heard before.
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Slothberries Permalink
Slothberries I think what @tebowie is trying to say is that in Carini, we heard something out of Phish that we'd never heard before.

The style of jamming in Tweezer, as great as it is, is something we have heard countless times now.

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PeterJenningsLovedTheFish Permalink
PeterJenningsLovedTheFish I think the 12/29 Coil middle section was the best of the run. No doubt.
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dpwilljr Permalink
dpwilljr The 2nd set 12/28 was the best for me although 12/30 had moments of brilliance.
Over all, 12/28 had what I wanted that night. Every single song was the perfect choice and played so well.
On 12/30, I was hoping for something different out of that magnificent DWD jam other than Twenty Years Later (not a huge fan of this tune) although this is a great version.
Also not big on Show of LIfe, but the entire set was so well done that it didn't matter.
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now_im_on_my_weigh Permalink
@Slothberries said:
I think what @tebowie is trying to say is that in Carini, we heard something out of Phish that we'd never heard before.

The style of jamming in Tweezer, as great as it is, is something we have heard countless times now.
Personally i would argue that this tweezer is maybe a style familiar to our ears but entirely something else completely, a style fulfilled....or maybe this is simply the beginning

Ive listened to the 13/30 II many times, Until the closing notes Hood they are playing as inspired as ive ever heard them

and all i meant with the sober comment is that i hadnt dosed or werent taking any fatty mahl dips so my phish revelation was not really chemically enhanced
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DisSpence Permalink
DisSpence 20years as the landing pad for the DWD> bummed me out, honestly. I like how 20yrs develops and by the end it sets up Carini nicely. But again, Carini> BDTNL is not a great segue IMO. For example, the Carini> Taste from DCU in June is a much better segue and Taste would have been an amazing release after the darkness of the Carini. I enjoy the jamming styles of 12/30. It is just the two landing pads that made me cringe during the show
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myMomaDontDance Permalink
myMomaDontDance @DanceTheJig728 said:
But IMO the DWD beats both.
Thanks! I feel like this disease hasn't been getting the appreciation that I feel it should get. I think the structure of that jam was just beautiful, sounded like a previously composed segment they've now added to the song or something! plus they go out in a semi dark/heavy direction to close that one out.
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