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Glow sticks ruined Reba at MSG

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WookiePhart Permalink
Sorry, that was completely out of line @bostonron. I had surgery on my knee this morning and been eating percocets all day. I apologize OP.
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jaqtothephuture Permalink
jaqtothephuture I don't see how I'm being a "whiny bitch" dude? I was simply seeing if anyone had the same opinion as me on that part of the show. I'm glad you LOVE glowsticks, brah. I'll be sure to send you some for you're 16th birthday.

@WookiePhart said:
OP stop being a whiney bitch and accept the Reba for what it was. You'll get your quiet Reba at another show. Sorry you hate glowsticks and people who cheer.
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patper Permalink
patper You really think the guys who have played over 1,500 shows couldn't pull off a Reba jam after a crowd uproar?

And for the record, I was a few sections over from the glowstick blast, and the cheering definitely started in that section and spread across the venue.

It was such an awesome moment, I have no clue why anyone is complaining
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relax_ Permalink
relax_ I don't see how 10 green glowsticks thrown somewhere near the back of the arena away from most people's sight line could have caused an eruption of that magnitude. Maybe the people around the glowstick area were cheering for them, but damn, most of us didn't know wtf was going on until we felt it growing around us and surrendered to it and made it larger than life. Glowsticks or not, I was very touched by that moment and so glad to be in the building to share it. Reba will always be Reba - can't say the same for that moment in time.
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cjfphan21 Permalink
cjfphan21 @WookiePhart said:
Sorry, that was completely out of line @bostonron. I had surgery on my knee this morning and been eating percocets all day. I apologize OP.
Percocets turn you into an asshole? Strange, they make me a very nice person. Sorry you had to have knee surgery. That stuff sucks. Hope your recovery is swift.
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StStephen Permalink
StStephen I was in sec. 118 for this show, and the crowd began to cheer the second the boys dropped into the jam section.

A small section cheered for a toss of some very bright glow sticks that then spread throughout MSG. I feel confident saying 90% of the people in the loud cheer everyone is debating here had no idea a bunch of glow sticks had been thrown. For whatever reason, a collective energy pulsated through the crowd and the crowd roared that energy back to the band.

Reba is my favorite Phish song and while this Reba was building as one of the slower and more patient Reba's I've heard in awhile, the crowd eruption was awesome. It really was a "you had to be there" moment. As others have said, the crowd was letting the band know how awesome they are and how happy everyone was to be there in that moment. Really special to me, and did not ruin Reba in any way for me.
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Chilly Permalink
Chilly They didn't ruin the show for me, or anyone else I've talked to that was there, if anything it did the opposite. Sorry Couch Tour folks, go to the show if you want the full experience, don't bitch and moan that THE CROWD who paid for their tickets and traveled to the venue are interrupting your webcast, tough shit, you are watching a sold out show for a fraction of the price, be happy with what you have.
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GeoudaDiSaze Permalink
At that point, I was in the upper-level with a real good view of the entire arena. I didn't notice an unusual amount of glowsticks. I did notice a huge, rippling cheer throughout the crowd in sections with and without glowsticks.

The video from @projmersch does show a bunch of glowsticks being tossed and that resulted in some cheering, but that was a pretty small bunch of glowsticks. You probably wouldn't have noticed much if you were in another section, and those weren't the first glowsticks of the night. At the time, I didn't notice it at all.

I think a lot of the cheering was just in response to other cheering, not "You scream, I scream, we all scream for glowsticks."

I am pro-spontaneous cheer in 12/29 Reba.
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mfhgreyboy Permalink
mfhgreyboy @Chilly said:
They didn't ruin the show for me, or anyone else I've talked to that was there, if anything it did the opposite. Sorry Couch Tour folks, go to the show if you want the full experience, don't bitch and moan that THE CROWD who paid for their tickets and traveled to the venue are interrupting your webcast, tough shit, you are watching a sold out show for a fraction of the price, be happy with what you have.
The person who started this thread (and thus, the debate) was AT MSG. And so was @grooveholmes, who agrees with OP. This isn't a live v. couch tour argument.
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TheEmu Phish.net Staff Permalink
TheEmu I am planning on doing a review of this Reba (which I have initially graded as a C/C+) later. But I wanted to give my two cents on this.

I think it's safe to say that I f***ing LOVE Reba. And while I have heard every version that circulates, I have only heard 4 live, so I was beyond ecstatic to be in the room for that one. And the quiet part is one of my favorite things, really essential for what I consider to be the perfect Reba.

There was fantastic quiet playing at the start of that Reba jam. At the time, I was in heaven. I think the crowd eruption probably had something to do with glowsticks, but I really do believe, as others have stated, that it was primarily about a spontaneous release of joy over how beautiful that song is. It's probably because I was there live, but even on tape, that cheer gives me chills and brings a smile to my face, just like it did that night.

They bailed on the ending, absolutely, and as a Reba fan, that's frustrating. But Reba has been having issues like that for a while now, and I really don't think it was rip-corded because of the cheering. It could have been, I don't know for sure, but with so many noodle-filled or rip-corded or otherwise disappointing 3.0 versions, it's hard for me to blame this one on the crowd. Besides, it's pretty hard to get a room the size of MSG to be quiet for a delicate jam.

It's still just a slightly above average Reba, IMHO, brought down by some slop in the composed section and, most importantly, the almost total lack of a peak. But there's some really pretty work in the first part of the jam, and if you close your eyes and let yourself get washed away in it, I think you might be able to appreciate that a lot of people (probably not all, but a lot) were cheering out of sheer joy and not for glowsticks.

Just my opinion, though.

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poonutties Permalink
poonutties I liked that the band was playing so quiet and mellow and people were going nuts. It's not 93 brahs.
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Sanudila Permalink
Sanudila So I think we can all agree that in addition to no longer throwing glowsticks everyone should sit quietly and wait for the song to end before showing appreciation through a level of applause comensurate with the preceeding performance.
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cjfphan21 Permalink
cjfphan21 @TheEmu Thank gawd a professional arrived on scene....

Glad you got another one dude. Sorry (for you and all of us) that it wasn't top notch. I dream of a day when we'll hear a Reba that compares to 10/31/94 or 5/16/95 or Alpine 97 etc. Though I'm thankful we're getting what we are.
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StStephen Permalink
StStephen @TheEmu said:
It's still just a slightly above average Reba, IMHO, brought down by some slop in the composed section and, most importantly, the almost total lack of a peak. *** But there's some really pretty work in the first part of the jam, and if you close your eyes and let yourself get washed away in it, I think you might be able to appreciate that a lot of people (probably not all, but a lot) were cheering out of sheer joy and not for glowsticks.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I was hoping our resident Reba guru would chime in.

/matter settled
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jriggs1509 Permalink
@OliveLoaf said:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdi8ztPXhF1rnwhpjo1_250.gif

this is quite possibly one of the funniest gifs i have ever seen. i can't stop laughing at it.
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Thisisnotafish Permalink
People don't understand when to throw Glowsticks.
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Lizards1024 Permalink
@Thisisnotafish said:
People don't understand when to throw Glowsticks.
is there a class i should go to?
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Thisisnotafish Permalink
@Lizards1024 said:
@Thisisnotafish said:
People don't understand when to throw Glowsticks.
is there a class i should go to?
Yup, i'll be teaching the class in the lot at the next Blossom show, come find me!
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PhishDicks Permalink
PhishDicks Can we get the bands opinion on this topic, please?
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mfhgreyboy Permalink
mfhgreyboy In before Trey Great Went quote.
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd @jriggs1509 said:
@OliveLoaf said:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdi8ztPXhF1rnwhpjo1_250.gif

this is quite possibly one of the funniest gifs i have ever seen. i can't stop laughing at it.
Seriously. I wonder if it was created in the context of a glowstick debate, or something else. I don't know which way would be funnier.
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Lizards1024 Permalink
@Thisisnotafish said:
@Lizards1024 said:
@Thisisnotafish said:
People don't understand when to throw Glowsticks.
is there a class i should go to?
Yup, i'll be teaching the class in the lot at the next Blossom show, come find me!
i will. and ill fight you about glowsticks. you glowstick supporter!!
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dkast85 Permalink
dkast85 DId you think of that all by yourself?
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BajaPhish Permalink
BajaPhish REBA!!!!
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Bikepgh Permalink
my vote goes for glowstick eruption. in section 224, right smack in the middle of the venue page side, you could witness the glow sticks being thrown. with this in mind i feel that the roar began seconds after they began to rain down from the back of the venue, and i also feel it had a definite influence on the direction of the song. also it should be noted as the great James Brown once said "what it is is what is"
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Theme85 Permalink
I don't care what anybody says......that was a special moment during reba when everyone was going nuts. And don't try n tell me they (phish) didn't love every second of it.
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MColemanMusic Permalink
Unbelievable that I see comments trashing the crowd erupting during "Reba" - It was one of the best moments I witnessed in person at MSG during this run. You idiots should stop going to shows if the crowd cheering bothers you that much!
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties f*** it.

Glue stick wars this summer.
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bostonron Permalink
bostonron I was a little disapointed no one threw kittys on the 29th. I must have looked like a real asshole tossing my pussy in the air when the lights went down.
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Manteca Permalink
Manteca Im 100% POSITIVE that the band hates seeing the crowd having a blast and illuminating the room with glowsticks.
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WookiePhart Permalink
If I'm 16 then your 16, brah, same shows'd. Can you still have fun? Everyone wants their intimate phish moment but it was NYE run people are pumped up man.
@jaqtothephuture said:
I don't see how I'm being a "whiny bitch" dude? I was simply seeing if anyone had the same opinion as me on that part of the show. I'm glad you LOVE glowsticks, brah. I'll be sure to send you some for you're 16th birthday.

@WookiePhart said:
OP stop being a whiney bitch and accept the Reba for what it was. You'll get your quiet Reba at another show. Sorry you hate glowsticks and people who cheer.
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WookiePhart Permalink
Ugh! Gross! Unacceptable! These are whiny words.
This aggression will not stand, man.
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GrooveHolmes Permalink
GrooveHolmes @MColemanMusic said:
Unbelievable that I see comments trashing the crowd erupting during "Reba" - It was one of the best moments I witnessed in person at MSG during this run. You idiots should stop going to shows if the crowd cheering bothers you that much!
Always my favorite response when you resort to, "stop going to shows if you don't agree with me."

@Manteca said:
Im 100% POSITIVE that the band hates seeing the crowd having a blast and illuminating the room with glowsticks.
You're trying to be sarcastic, but you're actually right.
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cjfphan21 Permalink
cjfphan21 @Theme85 said:
I don't care what anybody says......that was a special moment during reba when everyone was going nuts. And don't try n tell me they (phish) didn't love every second of it.
I won't as long as you don't try n tell me they (phish) did love every second of it.
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Thisisnotafish Permalink
@GrooveHolmes said:
@MColemanMusic said:
Unbelievable that I see comments trashing the crowd erupting during "Reba" - It was one of the best moments I witnessed in person at MSG during this run. You idiots should stop going to shows if the crowd cheering bothers you that much!
Always my favorite response when you resort to, "stop going to shows if you don't agree with me."

@Manteca said:
Im 100% POSITIVE that the band hates seeing the crowd having a blast and illuminating the room with glowsticks.
You're trying to be sarcastic, but you're actually right.
Isnt it weird that there is a company that sells glowsticks that support Mbird? If the band's feelings were really *that* strong about glowsticks, wouldnt they not want GSW selling glowsticks to support Mbird?
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SpiritWolf Permalink
SpiritWolf we're doing this again?
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WickerAndCork Permalink
WickerAndCork That round room has the most energy of any venue I've been to, plus maybe the acoustics helps to amplify an already pumped audience. That and Kuroda was just slaying the lights. The energy at MSG is contagious. If you want quiet, well the Gorge is where its to be found.
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Drgordy Permalink
Drgordy Oh please, that Reba was nothing special and wasn't going to be with or without the glowsticks
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_________________________ Permalink
_________________________ highlight of the worst set from the worst show of the run. If phish is gonna place Reba, I want to hear the band play Reba
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Frizz Permalink
Frizz @forbin1 said:
http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1253612165_cat_running_around.gif

Open this pit up!
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