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Gordeaux Permalink
Gordeaux so, every time i take molly which has only been now 3 times in my life and most recently this past monday night, a very strange side effect happens

i lose all sense of balance

walking becomes insanely difficult and i trip and fall 5-6 times a night which is honestly quite embarassing at social events. monday night for instance, a large group of us were leaving my friends house and yours truly fell down the stairs on the way outside.

anyway does this happen to anyone else who uses/has used molly?

i ask because it happens to none of the people around me, so i'm thinking its my body telling me to never do molly again
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cupuscakus Permalink
cupuscakus @Gordeaux said:
i'm thinking its my body telling me to never do molly again
this.
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spaced Permalink
spaced Erowid lists "dizziness, loss of balance, and vertigo" as a possible side effect, so it's not just you.
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treysoldguitar Permalink
yeah, I would listen to your body. Different drugs affect different people in different ways. Seems Molly is not for you. I, for example, cannot do shrooms. Too many negative side effects, to enjoy the good parts.
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steamstash Permalink
steamstash Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.
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bostonron Permalink
bostonron @steamstash said:
Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.
Research drug
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cupuscakus Permalink
cupuscakus @steamstash said:
Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.
Good Lord, the 90s were awesome.
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WGphan92 Permalink
WGphan92 Sometimes I get a little light headed and dizzy but the past few times I did it, the come-up was so uncomfortable that I vowed to never do it again. I'd get disoriented, dizzy, light headed, and start panicking and have anxiety for an hour or so and I hated it. This happened a few times. Then after an hour or so it would pass and I would have an awesome time and forget about the shittyness.

Then on 12/30 I decided to try a little bit of moon rocks, really really pure. i only did .1, and the come-up was almost not noticeable at all and I really enjoyed it. But I really don't like doing Molly very much so its really just like a once a year thing now. So if you decide to try it again go with a lower dose. You might have better results
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steamstash Permalink
steamstash @cupuscakus said:
@steamstash said:
Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.
Good Lord, the 90s were awesome.
Could you give me a little more info on what it actually is. I know close to nothing besides the fact that that night was amazing and I have no memory of it=( (12/29/12). Might have actually meet some of you guys. Was at twiddle late night.
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WGphan92 Permalink
WGphan92 @steamstash said:
Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.

I took a white lightening roll at Catskill chill this year, was told it was MDA... The first hour was f***ing hell. I hated it sooo much. I was nauseous, nodding out, body chills/sweating, anxiety, parsnoia, thought i was gonna die. It was frightening really. After an hour or so I got used to it and the next 6 hours or so were insanely fun. So f***ing weird. Lol but it was so bad at first that I'll never do it again
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Mr_Incompletely Permalink
Mr_Incompletely I would HIGHLY RECCOMEND getting a tester kit from the Bunk Police and testing everything you buy.It may have not been molly. I love when im in a lot and my test tube turns bright orange. The look on their face when they see their shit is meth or salts is awesome.
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd The powder in the baggie may very likely be a cocktail of "club drugs" and synthetic substances other than MDMA that are designed to impair your senses in certain ways that one could confuse with a euphoric or psychadelic experience, but is really just disorienting.

If a bunch of your friends were doing the same stuff and nobody else had the side effects, listen to @cupuscakus. She is teh smartness. You don't get to see that many shows over that many years by being a dummy.
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cupuscakus Permalink
cupuscakus @steamstash said:
@cupuscakus said:
@steamstash said:
Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.
Good Lord, the 90s were awesome.
Could you give me a little more info on what it actually is. I know close to nothing besides the fact that that night was amazing and I have no memory of it=( (12/29/12). Might have actually meet some of you guys. Was at twiddle late night.
I can only speak from experience, and I am certainly no expert. Back in the mid-late 90s, Ecstacy was pure MDMA (at least in my circle of friends). There was no Molly, no "rolls", it was just MDMA. No side effects and it wasn't cut with anything. Now a days (said like an old lady w an apron) Molly and X are a smorgasboard of drugs... cut with whatever is cheap. That's what each time is a little different... some rounds make you a little dizzy or tired (benzos), some make you wicked jittery (coke) and others just don't work at all (plant food)

Edit: Its a crap shoot. You can either slap everything on the table and roll the dice, play it conservatively and up the antie when you feel its necessary, or let your wook friend ingest the night before and watch and learn
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Chilly Permalink
Chilly I can't eat mol anymore, the last bunch of times I have, it just didn't sit with me right. Sometimes I have an absolute blast, other times, I wanna just sit down and go home, so I've basically decided no more for me. I have a pretty high tolerance to the stuff as well, so I find myself in some limbo between being high and just coming up, it's like the come-up lasts forever and I never actually get the euphoric part.

Now I always get mine from a very trusted source, I bring it with me, I don't buy shit like that in lot.

L is the same way, any doses I get, I either personally know the person who broke down the crystal and laid the sheets, or my best friend personally knows them. I'll usually grab 20-50 tabs and sit on them for awhile, hook my friends up, and myself, never have to worry about getting bunk, or even worse, a difference substance from some random wook in the lot.

Molly on the other hand does odd things, many people have many different reactions. I know some people who can eat a half gram and not feel anything, most likely because they take prescription anti-depressants and whatnot which counter-act the drug.
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cupuscakus Permalink
cupuscakus @Chilly said:
I'll usually grab 20-50 tabs and sit on them for awhile, hook my friends up, and myself
So, HEY! Im cupuscakus. I enjoy Phish and stuff :)
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joonze Permalink
joonze did some really do molly? Image
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Gordeaux Permalink
Gordeaux @johnnyd said:
The powder in the baggie may very likely be a cocktail of "club drugs" and synthetic substances other than MDMA that are designed to impair your senses in certain ways that one could confuse with a euphoric or psychadelic experience, but is really just disorienting.

If a bunch of your friends were doing the same stuff and nobody else had the side effects, listen to @cupuscakus. She is teh smartness. You don't get to see that many shows over that many years by being a dummy.
trust me when i say this was pure mdma. shit was in rock form. i actually had the most 'psychedelic' experience ive ever had on molly which was great but the falling was not.

yeah, no chance i do molly again, plus i hate all forms of edm personally and dont plan on going to a rave anyway
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd Pure molly (MDMA) is not psychadelic. Crystal clear lucid enveloping euphoric.
No visuals, distortions, hallucinations, etc.
Thats your problem right there.

Edit: too bad about EDM. so many, missing out on so much good music
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Gordeaux Permalink
Gordeaux @johnnyd said:
Pure molly (MDMA) is not psychadelic. Crystal clear lucid enveloping euphoric.
No visuals, distortions, hallucinations, etc.
Thats your problem right there.

Edit: too bad about EDM. so many, missing out on so much good music
you sure about that? i thought mdma was considered a psychedelic drug. i was seeing the patterns on the walls that i see when i do L, the entire night.

and ya edm wise, i think its the fact that my all my buddies listen to is crappy edm over and over again so its gotten to the point where i just can't stand it.

but if you wanna pm me some good edm suggestions, id be more than down
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jaqtothephuture Permalink
jaqtothephuture I too have eaten the White Bolts. Out in Denver and at MSG. Those are pretty close to pure MDA. MDA isn't for everyone. Much more psychedelic than MDMA. It is better IMO, but I LOVE the visuals. Those pills, or at least the ones I have eaten are clean too. My buddy is a chemist and vouched for them FWIW.
@WGphan92 said:
@steamstash said:
Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.

I took a white lightening roll at Catskill chill this year, was told it was MDA... The first hour was f***ing hell. I hated it sooo much. I was nauseous, nodding out, body chills/sweating, anxiety, parsnoia, thought i was gonna die. It was frightening really. After an hour or so I got used to it and the next 6 hours or so were insanely fun. So f***ing weird. Lol but it was so bad at first that I'll never do it again
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd Only knowing as much as you posted in the thread, it sounds like you possibly had a hell of a cocktail there - M plus who knows what... I've experienced it once or twice, and seen it way too many times. Some of my friends and I generically call it "Scary Molly" - powder thats not mdma but some odd, quasi-psychadelic/upper/downer chemicals than can lead to very uncomfortable places.
View Spoilers

Yes, there are worlds of crappy edm out there. Universes even. Its hard to cull.

I put mixes up in the GM thread now and then, I'll remember to tag you when I do again.
Wait, are you in Burlington?
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GhostBuster Permalink
GhostBuster We're you smoking the good old herb as well? I've had strange feelings and a little loss of balance when I'm only on mol but I've noticed that right after I smoke those symptoms pass and it's smooth sailing.
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller while I'm trippin I can pick the people on "Molly" = RC's out from the crowd, they got a weird perma grin thing goin on and their faces are contorting, I guess it is the muscles in their face moving. I'm quite certain that long term "abuse" of these drugs cause long term damage to the way you look. Anyone else see that?
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WGphan92 Permalink
WGphan92 @jaqtothephuture said:
I too have eaten the White Bolts. Out in Denver and at MSG. Those are pretty close to pure MDA. MDA isn't for everyone. Much more psychedelic than MDMA. It is better IMO, but I LOVE the visuals. Those pills, or at least the ones I have eaten are clean too. My buddy is a chemist and vouched for them FWIW.
@WGphan92 said:
@steamstash said:
Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.

I took a white lightening roll at Catskill chill this year, was told it was MDA... The first hour was f***ing hell. I hated it sooo much. I was nauseous, nodding out, body chills/sweating, anxiety, parsnoia, thought i was gonna die. It was frightening really. After an hour or so I got used to it and the next 6 hours or so were insanely fun. So f***ing weird. Lol but it was so bad at first that I'll never do it again

Yeah those bolts were legit. Word is they're the strongest rolls going around right now. Very different from MDMA, very visual, very psychedelic... Nothing to fuhk around with if your not used to big boy drugs. And needless to say I had no idea what I was getting into. Had to leave the Condpirator set cuz it was just too much. Missed Kung Fu but made it to Dopapod and from there on I had a blast till like 5am... It was a lot of fun but I'll never do it again
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WGphan92 Permalink
WGphan92 @careful_w_that_axe_Miller said:
while I'm trippin I can pick the people on "Molly" = RC's out from the crowd, they got a weird perma grin thing goin on and their faces are contorting, I guess it is the muscles in their face moving. I'm quite certain that long term "abuse" of these drugs cause long term damage to the way you look. Anyone else see that?

Yeah.., prime example, This Guy:
Image
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jaqtothephuture Permalink
jaqtothephuture @WGphan92 said:
@jaqtothephuture said:
I too have eaten the White Bolts. Out in Denver and at MSG. Those are pretty close to pure MDA. MDA isn't for everyone. Much more psychedelic than MDMA. It is better IMO, but I LOVE the visuals. Those pills, or at least the ones I have eaten are clean too. My buddy is a chemist and vouched for them FWIW.
@WGphan92 said:
@steamstash said:
Last time I did "Molly" it was something called MDA. Don't Really have any recollection of what happened that night.

I took a white lightening roll at Catskill chill this year, was told it was MDA... The first hour was f***ing hell. I hated it sooo much. I was nauseous, nodding out, body chills/sweating, anxiety, parsnoia, thought i was gonna die. It was frightening really. After an hour or so I got used to it and the next 6 hours or so were insanely fun. So f***ing weird. Lol but it was so bad at first that I'll never do it again

Yeah those bolts were legit. Word is they're the strongest rolls going around right now. Very different from MDMA, very visual, very psychedelic... Nothing to fuhk around with if your not used to big boy drugs. And needless to say I had no idea what I was getting into. Had to leave the Condpirator set cuz it was just too much. Missed Kung Fu but made it to Dopapod and from there on I had a blast till like 5am... It was a lot of fun but I'll never do it again
A couple of my homies had similar things to say about them. One of my friends even went the route of eating some L to over power the roll. Surprisingly, he said it worked and that the L and Bolt together was a match made in heaven. I did the same the next night and couldn't agree more. Absolutely awesome...but not to be done often and definitely not for anyone who isn't experienced with psychedelia experiences. :)
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties Molly just makes me cheer during the quiet part of the Reba jam
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StStephen Permalink
StStephen @johnnyd

You just made my day with that awesome Mallrat's reference. Well done, sir.
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YorkvilleBeerLover Permalink
YorkvilleBeerLover I remember the first time i heard the term molly - I almost laughed out loud. My wholelife this is what a molly was:

Image

I can't take anyone serious who say's "molly" out loud. It's so dumb to me.
I feel the same way about the phrase - "heddy, or heady".

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Gordeaux Permalink
Gordeaux The author has chosen to remove all text from this comment.
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mfhgreyboy Permalink
mfhgreyboy @YorkvilleBeerLover said:
I remember the first time i heard the term molly - I almost laughed out loud. My wholelife this is what a molly was:

Image

I can't take anyone serious who say's "molly" out loud. It's so dumb to me.
I feel the same way about the phrase - "heddy, or heady".
What about h3tty?
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Gordeaux Permalink
Gordeaux @johnnyd said:
Only knowing as much as you posted in the thread, it sounds like you possibly had a hell of a cocktail there - M plus who knows what... I've experienced it once or twice, and seen it way too many times. Some of my friends and I generically call it "Scary Molly" - powder thats not mdma but some odd, quasi-psychadelic/upper/downer chemicals than can lead to very uncomfortable places.
View Spoilers

Yes, there are worlds of crappy edm out there. Universes even. Its hard to cull.

I put mixes up in the GM thread now and then, I'll remember to tag you when I do again.
Wait, are you in Burlington?
yes, for college
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd PM'd sent'd
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careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller @WGphan92 said:
@careful_w_that_axe_Miller said:
while I'm trippin I can pick the people on "Molly" = RC's out from the crowd, they got a weird perma grin thing goin on and their faces are contorting, I guess it is the muscles in their face moving. I'm quite certain that long term "abuse" of these drugs cause long term damage to the way you look. Anyone else see that?

Yeah.., prime example, This Guy:
http://phaash.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/wook_original.jpg?w=428&h=285
Ha ha I'm quite sure that this dudes appearance is directly related to incest of some form somewhere in his line.
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GVOldTimer Permalink
@jaqtothephuture said:
A couple of my homies had similar things to say about them. One of my friends even went the route of eating some L to over power the roll. Surprisingly, he said it worked and that the L and Bolt together was a match made in heaven. I did the same the next night and couldn't agree more. Absolutely awesome...but not to be done often and definitely not for anyone who isn't experienced with psychedelia experiences. :)
Not to come off like a druggie...but I've found (esp. at BGCA shows) that a few phatty bumps (key fulls) of blow to go along with some rolls are is a killer combo...just my opinion...FWIW. The blow really levels out the molly/rolls....
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Chilly Permalink
Chilly @cupuscakus said:
@Chilly said:
I'll usually grab 20-50 tabs and sit on them for awhile, hook my friends up, and myself
So, HEY! Im cupuscakus. I enjoy Phish and stuff :)
Haha, what's up! I'm sure we can be friends if you enjoy Phish and stuff! Hopefully there is another Phish show in the near future and we can boogie. I'm always willing to hook up a fellow .netter, let alone one that hails from the (not so) Great state of Connecticut!
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PeteArbuckle Permalink
Did anyone try the green powder that was around 2010 NYE? Remimded me of the Big Cypress mystery powder. It was reallly good. Someone said it had mescaline in it. Def felt different from normal mdma.
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the_Crested_Hogchoker Permalink
the_Crested_Hogchoker Related question... moonrocks, always cut with meth right?
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SimpleJamPhan Permalink
I like Phish and stuff...Tennessee
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johnnyd Phish.net Staff Permalink
johnnyd @the_Crested_Hogchoker said:
Related question... moonrocks, always cut with meth right?
Oh jeez, is this a thing now? I guess I am not suprised.

My (likely dated) understanding is that moonrocks or shards is MDA, almost identical in effect to MDMA but like one step less refined. I guess the crystal appearance makes it easy to cut with meth, if that is indeed a thing. But actual moonrocks are umm fun. I've heard.

The first time I ever heard of "moon rocks" was from a friend of a friend at a show. He had been the prior day and as we're meeting in a big group hanging in the lot (or maybe it was a fest) he says, "so if anyone asks if you want something called moon rocks, just say yes."

It was reminiscent of the ghostbusters scene - "if someone asks if you are a god..."
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the_Crested_Hogchoker Permalink
the_Crested_Hogchoker I have sort of an adverse reaction to molly. It ususally puts me to sleep.
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WGphan92 Permalink
WGphan92 @johnnyd said:
@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:
Related question... moonrocks, always cut with meth right?
Oh jeez, is this a thing now? I guess I am not suprised.

My (likely dated) understanding is that moonrocks or shards is MDA, almost identical in effect to MDMA but like one step less refined. I guess the crystal appearance makes it easy to cut with meth, if that is indeed a thing. But actual moonrocks are umm fun. I've heard.

The first time I ever heard of "moon rocks" was from a friend of a friend at a show. He had been the prior day and as we're meeting in a big group hanging in the lot (or maybe it was a fest) he says, "so if anyone asks if you want something called moon rocks, just say yes."

It was reminiscent of the ghostbusters scene - "if someone asks if you are a god..."

From my experience with MDA (see above posts about white lightening bolts) and my experiences with moon rocks, or so I've been told were moon rocks, they are not the same. It was my understanding that moon rocks were pure MDMA in rock/shard form...and no, not cut with meth. Lol
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the_Crested_Hogchoker Permalink
the_Crested_Hogchoker @WGphan92 said:
@johnnyd said:
@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:
Related question... moonrocks, always cut with meth right?
Oh jeez, is this a thing now? I guess I am not suprised.

My (likely dated) understanding is that moonrocks or shards is MDA, almost identical in effect to MDMA but like one step less refined. I guess the crystal appearance makes it easy to cut with meth, if that is indeed a thing. But actual moonrocks are umm fun. I've heard.

The first time I ever heard of "moon rocks" was from a friend of a friend at a show. He had been the prior day and as we're meeting in a big group hanging in the lot (or maybe it was a fest) he says, "so if anyone asks if you want something called moon rocks, just say yes."

It was reminiscent of the ghostbusters scene - "if someone asks if you are a god..."

From my experience with MDA (see above posts about white lightening bolts) and my experiences with moon rocks, or so I've been told were moon rocks, they are not the same. It was my understanding that moon rocks were pure MDMA in rock/shard form...and no, not cut with meth. Lol
Sounds like a possible sales pitch
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Phlat_Brim_Kid Permalink
Phlat_Brim_Kid U need to get from someone u know has the source close, the scene is flood with reseach chemicals, that are similar but dangerous.
what u think is mda might be mdai or 2cb or amt mixed with wahtever!
or just steer clear of hard drugs! Booze and herb usualy arent bunk, and u know what your dealling with!
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