Pocono Raceway June 28 - June 30?
or
Bader Field Atlantic City June 28 - June 30 or July 12 - July 14?

or another location...most rumors have mentioned the Northeast and many have mentioned a raceway setting...NY is still a viable option for the fest and i know there has been mentions of other locations that they held fests at in the past...

what are your thoughts on the two spots mentioned and how realistic do you think they are...dates are just wild guesses....

If they are really doing a 30 yr retrospective type deal, it's gotta be Plattsburgh or limestone

I think Plattsburgh and limestone are out of the question. Phish knows their fan base is older, with families, jobs, etc. I guarantee the majority of people will not travel to northern Maine, deal with ridiculous traffic, etc. it's not the 90's anymore, and I think with the logistical success of fest 8 and SBIX, the band will hold it at a place that's easy to get in and out of

Plus the facilities at the Air Force base in limestone are run down from what I gather. No way they'd go back

Nectar's.

Fest location...?

Bader wont be the "fest" but I've said this before, I wouldn't be surprised if they did a few Bader Field type things around the country.

2 days of phish in an open field in a city. No camping but lodging-a-plenty and tons to do. Preferably near large bodies of wa-wa-wawtah.

Lol Bader; It's going to be NE or NY.

They won't hold it in a location that requires you pay for a hotel.

@ThatPharGone said:

i heard form a atlantic city native bader field isnt doing concerts anymore

Are they saying this because the shows that were booked for September last year were pulled by Starr Hill Presents (promoter of DMB, Bonnaroo, and more) six months after signing the contract in Jan 2012 with no explanation?
News Story ^

I tried to find info on this and cant find where No Concerts at Bader Field are to occur....
even if a fest isnt there, it was a great concert location...

@Phrank518 said:

New Hampshire Motor Speedway?

how is the camping at this track? RV style, not tent camping...the sight doesnt say much. Its a little further then i want to drive, but it wouldnt hold me back from seeing a fest there...

Limestone would be a very tough decision for me...But NY,CT,VT,NH,RI and i'm there...ME is just a bit further then i could take my RV, especially North ME, so i'm really hoping that isn't the place they picked...
NJ,PA,DE,MD would also be no problem....

guess i am just wishing there were some solid rumors that some digging could prove or disprove the event...god, i need some phish!

@phishhead said:

I heard the venue is in my ass. Welcome to fart city.

now thats a shitty responce

@ledzepmaster said:

Lol Bader; It's going to be NE or NY.

They won't hold it in a location that requires you pay for a hotel.

i agree with this.

nothing says phish fest without a camp city.

Suwanee isn't big enough. The Wanee fest only holds around 25k while a Phish fest would have more than that. Sweet venue though

Bader Field is all mud still. Had a few friends go to AC a few weeks ago because the Casino's were offering $29 rooms. I think AC is outta the question all together.

@sawitagain87 said:

Bader Field is all mud still. Had a few friends go to AC a few weeks ago because the Casino's were offering $29 rooms. I think AC is outta the question all together.

thats all of NJ this time of year...or at least south jersey....if its sand, it drys quick, if its farm ground...mud til may....ac is a mix...and Bader is all farm type ground on top of sand...Man mad island/peninsula for the air port it once was...

i know it wont really happen, but cant a boy dream?

oh wait...im on .net and here to have my dreams crushed...

@BoozyGreenherbs said:

VT!!!!!!!!!!

May the force be with all.

@joonze said:

@phishhead said:

I heard the venue is in my ass. Welcome to fart city.

now thats a shitty responce

Now that was shitty...er I mean witty

festival back on amy's farm hahahahahahaha that would be awesomeeeee

@themefromthepossum said:

Plus the facilities at the Air Force base in limestone are run down from what I gather.

Not true. Out of curiosity, I exchanged some e-mails with someone up there who asked not to be named, but said the site in its current condition could definitely accomodate a similar event.

I doubt it will happen there (there's no solution for the traffic going in, that I can see), but their infrastructure is ready to go. They'd love to have another fest there.

I wish they would do it at the old Double J in Michigan. I live about 15 minutes away, and Michigan is quite nice in the summer. We could all do a .net meetup on Lake Michigan. Sorry. Just dreaming.

@mathemagician said:

Buckeye Lake aka Legend Valley in central Ohio perhaps?

Awesome, but I think its too small for a fest. Def should have a show or two there, tho.

@Phrank518 said:

New Hampshire Motor Speedway?

THIS

@MomaDan said:

Suwanee isn't big enough. The Wanee fest only holds around 25k while a Phish fest would have more than that. Sweet venue though

I dont think this is true at all, although i tried to do some digging and the biggest # i could find from previous years is 30,000.. however on the front page of the suwanee music park website it says that there is "over 800 acres of primitive camping" which sounds like it would be more than enough to accommodate a phest. I went to wanee last year and it was somewhere between 25-30,000 people (a lot) i think and there was definitely still available room for camping all over the place...i was camped 15 min walk from the little amphitheater (i think mushroom stage)... also THIS thread has some people claiming that they heard the capacity was at about 40,000 including concert goers and staff. Wherever the festival happens, i dont think its going to ever be 70-80,000 people again those days have come and gone, but i think phish could destroy this venue and would love to see them play at suwanee.

edit - i was at superball also and i bet there were just about as if not just as many or more people at wanee than there were at superball.

@johnnyd said:

@themefromthepossum said:

Plus the facilities at the Air Force base in limestone are run down from what I gather.

Not true. Out of curiosity, I exchanged some e-mails with someone up there who asked not to be named, but said the site in its current condition could definitely accomodate a similar event.

Good to know, thanks! I heard about its degrading condition via word of mouth so I had no concrete proof

But still, I think logistically it won't happen

@Gandalf said:

@MomaDan said:

Suwanee isn't big enough. The Wanee fest only holds around 25k while a Phish fest would have more than that. Sweet venue though

I dont think this is true at all, although i tried to do some digging and the biggest # i could find from previous years is 30,000.. however on the front page of the suwanee music park website it says that there is "over 800 acres of primitive camping" which sounds like it would be more than enough to accommodate a phest. I went to wanee last year and it was somewhere between 25-30,000 people (a lot) i think and there was definitely still available room for camping all over the place...i was camped 15 min walk from the little amphitheater (i think mushroom stage)... also THIS thread has some people claiming that they heard the capacity was at about 40,000 including concert goers and staff. Wherever the festival happens, i dont think its going to ever be 70-80,000 people again those days have come and gone, but i think phish could destroy this venue and would love to see them play at suwanee.

edit - i was at superball also and i bet there were just about as if not just as many or more people at wanee than there were at superball.

seems like most of the suwannee speculation is more wishful thinking than legit rumors is all. Oh man seeing a late night 2am set at the mushroom room stage would be insane. That place has great vibes

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