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Re-posting this from the Great Tweezer off thread.Alright, so I took @spaced's idea and ran with it. I made a bracket here. The first round is open now through Monday at noon. I know there will be some disagreement over the choices and seeds, but I tried to make it pretty balanced.
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Great idea. But its nearly impossible to vote unless you can remember every single tweezer. (u gotta remember, not everyone is as big of a student of Phish as you are, @westbrook)Might I suggest at least adding the Venues to the dates? It might help jar peoples memories more than just a random date in June of 1994 will.
I wanted to participate, but i gave up after the third match because I cant remember what all of those tweezers sound like.
The way it is now, i think youll find that most people are going to vote randomly....making the contest pointless
just my .02
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@slothberries I see what you mean. Perhaps it would be better to limit it to 8 versions? It can still be a bracket or it can just be a poll.
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If you provide links to the tweezers then it is more likely to elicit a realistic response. Otherwise like @Slothberries said, random voting will prevail.
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So if I went the route of a smaller bracket with 8 or 16 versions, I think more people would be familiar with most of them. Then the question is which versions to include and there will be some subjectivity on my part in choosing them. Maybe some people could list their top 8/16 and I'll compare them to the list I come up with before making the new bracket. I can also provide links for each version.
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Let's do 16. There are sooo many good Tweezers, and with the inherent nature of ranking these beasts, I can easily see how reasonable people would disagree over the "Top 8".My 16, not seeded:
4/21/92
5/6/93
5/7/94
11/2/94
11/23/94
12/9/94
6/22/95
11/30/95
12/2/95
12/14/95
12/6/97
7/9/98
8/1/98
2/28/03
9/3/11
12/28/12
My original list was 25 and had to brutally whittle it down to 16.
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i can tell you this right now...12/2/95 SHOULD win
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Thanks for the list @StStephen. Anyone else?
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Some tough choices here. Most were fairly easy. I was stuck on a few:6/9/00 vs 10/30/98
11/26/97 vs 8/1/98
2/28/03 vs 7/9/98
9/3/11 vs 12/2/95
11/30/95 vs 11/17/97
11/30/95 going against Denver '97 seems a little unfair. Which sucks bc that is a great, great Tweezer. But Denver '97 is one of, if not my favorite Tweezer ever.
This is pretty cool. I'm excited to do the next round and see who is crowned champ. My finals picks: Denver '97 vs Nassua '03 with Denver winning that matchup
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Thanks for voting so far everyone. Not really sure what to do regarding a second, smaller bracket. Let this one play out and then do a second one or just forget it? Or make the smaller bracket now and leave the first bracket alone...I've got questions, whose got answers?
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Seems like quite a few people are voting, so might as well let this one play out.Let's keep bumping this bitch over the next few days.
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@westbrook said: Thanks for voting so far everyone. Not really sure what to do regarding a second, smaller bracket. Let this one play out and then do a second one or just forget it? Or make the smaller bracket now and leave the first bracket alone...I've got questions, whose got answers?Stick with what you have. Personally, I like your choices. Good mix of popular and somewhat dark horses. The big Tweezers are gonna win anyway, so it really doesn't matter all that much. I like the bracket as is.
And I will for sure bump this over the next few days.
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Alright let's keep this one going then.
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voted. nice job as always @westbrook
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6/9/00!!!! Seriously people, if you have not heard this jam, you are missing outhttp://www.mediafire.com/?el5f6nwpko1akdx
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Great idea! Am I a dork if I know every one of these versions off the top of my head? I love me some tweezer! 
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496 votes so far. Let's keep them coming. The more votes we get, the more reliable the results.
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I voted as well. 12/14/95 in 2013: Because Timber f***ing Ho, That's Why.
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hell yeah!! i am not computer savvy enough to set this up. nice work @westbrook.
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@MiguelSanchez said: hell yeah!! i am not computer savvy enough to set this up. nice work @westbrook.Hey thanks. Looking at the bracket, I see some interesting matchups coming in the next round. 12/2/95 vs. 2/28/03 could be close. It could have been seeded a little better, but like I said the option was to order the versions by their strength. I think I could have made it a little better if I could actually make the seeds myself and see how the bracket was shaping up as I made it.
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@westbrook said: @MiguelSanchez said:hey, whatcha gonna do?hell yeah!! i am not computer savvy enough to set this up. nice work @westbrook.Hey thanks. Looking at the bracket, I see some interesting matchups coming in the next round. 12/2/95 vs. 2/28/03 could be close. It could have been seeded a little better, but like I said the option was to order the versions by their strength. I think I could have made it a little better if I could actually make the seeds myself and see how the bracket was shaping up as I made it.
as for me, i'll be going 12/2/95 in that match up!!
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Voted! Some intriguing matchups in there. I had fun deciding, as well as ignoring common opinion and voting for some underdogs. Anybody rooting for a "hometown" version? I think the closest to a local Tweezer for me in this tournament would be 11/23/94 St. Louis
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i voted against 12/14/95. that was tough. @kipmat, what was 11/23/94 up against? i can't remember if i voted for it or not. i do know that was one of the ones i chewed on for a minute.
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@westbrook said: @MiguelSanchez said:I think it's probably good the way it is. I was hemming and hawing about what versions to include and how to set up the seeding, and it was taking forever. You just went and quickly made a bracket and it worked out great. Sometimes you just can't overthink things and have to let them play out. Tough matchups are part of the fun and will keep things interesting at each stage of the bracket.hell yeah!! i am not computer savvy enough to set this up. nice work @westbrook.Hey thanks. Looking at the bracket, I see some interesting matchups coming in the next round. 12/2/95 vs. 2/28/03 could be close. It could have been seeded a little better, but like I said the option was to order the versions by their strength. I think I could have made it a little better if I could actually make the seeds myself and see how the bracket was shaping up as I made it.
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I had to vote against 11/26/97 cause it was seeded against a juggaurnaut 8/1/98...it fought hard
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First, you did a kick-ass job on selecting these and seeding them as quickly as you did. Like @MiguelSanchez said, what are you gonna do?@westbrook said:
12/2/95 vs. 2/28/03 could be closeDude, no kidding. Probably 2 of my top 3.
I'm gonna claim the Dick's Tweezer from 2011 as my "hometown" Tweezer, but I'm sure it'll get smoked by 12/2/95.
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@Choda said: I had to vote against 11/26/97 cause it was seeded against a juggaurnaut 8/1/98...it fought hardi had the same dilemma and voted the same way.
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@StStephen said: First, you did a kick-ass job on selecting these and seeding them as quickly as you did. Like @MiguelSanchez said, what are you gonna do?if you're thinking about claiming dick's, you might as well claim 11/17/97. i think dick's is getting bounced in round one... unless it gets noob'ed into round 2.
@westbrook said:12/2/95 vs. 2/28/03 could be closeDude, no kidding. Probably 2 of my top 3.
I'm gonna claim the Dick's Tweezer from 2011 as my "hometown" Tweezer, but I'm sure it'll get smoked by 12/2/95.
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@MiguelSanchez said: if you're thinking about claiming dick's, you might as well claim 11/17/97. i think dick's is getting bounced in round one... unless it gets noob'ed into round 2.I've lost my f***ing mind. Tweezerfest. Bomb Factory (RIP). Dallas.
::facepalm::
PS: Of course I voted for it.
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bump
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Morning bump.
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Bump. Voting for the first round is open until Monday. 720 votes so far, or 45 people.
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@westbrook said: Bump. Voting for the first round is open until Monday. 720 votes so far, or 45 people.Can def do better then that. C'mon, voting takes less then 7 minutes. And it's fun.
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Bump for votes.
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Bump for votes.
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Just listened to 12/01/96 for the first time, that was badass! Now starting up 12/28/95 for the first time. Such a good way to get myself to listen to awesome Tweezers; but I feel bad for ANYTHING up against FLeezer, because it's probably gonna lose my vote.
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@jerryguscia I listened to 12/1/96 today too. Crazy jam. 12/28/95 is really good too. It's on Live Bait 7 fyi.
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This seems like a whole lot of work just to name 12.6.97 the winner.
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@deBebbler said: This seems like a whole lot of work just to name 12.6.97 the winner.We'll see about that. I think it will definitely make it to the final 4 but there is some stiff competition.
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Bump for votes.
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@deBebbler said: This seems like a whole lot of work just to name 12.6.97 the winner.i guess it is the favorite, but i wouldn't declare it the winner. there's at least one or two that i would take over it. i've been refreshing my memory on a few of these tweezers. tough decisions around the bend...
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@MiguelSanchez said: @deBebbler said:Like I said, I think 12/6/97 is a lock for the final four, but something like Bangor or New Haven could knock it off. I'm hoping 11/23/94 can pull of some upsets too.This seems like a whole lot of work just to name 12.6.97 the winner.i guess it is the favorite, but i wouldn't declare it the winner. there's at least one or two that i would take over it. i've been refreshing my memory on a few of these tweezers. tough decisions around the bend...
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@westbrook said: @MiguelSanchez said:yeah, i voted against 11/23, but i'm kind of bouncing around on that one. i would definitely take 11/2/94 over 12/6/97. the 11/2 tweezer is a top 5 all time jam, imo. 12/6 may be a top 10 or 15 though. 12/6 tweezer is definitely in the top 5 of things that i have seen live, but i wasn't around for the '94 tweezers.@deBebbler said:Like I said, I think 12/6/97 is a lock for the final four, but something like Bangor or New Haven could knock it off. I'm hoping 11/23/94 can pull of some upsets too.This seems like a whole lot of work just to name 12.6.97 the winner.i guess it is the favorite, but i wouldn't declare it the winner. there's at least one or two that i would take over it. i've been refreshing my memory on a few of these tweezers. tough decisions around the bend...
side note, 12/6/97 was the first tweezer i ever saw live. talk about setting the bar high.
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See, this is the fun thing about these brackets. I think Bangor is really boring for the most part. I wouldn't put it in my top 10 tweezers, and it's not even my favorite tweez from that month. I'd put 11/23 St. Louis and 11/28 Bozemon over Bangor any day.Just goes to show that making predictions about what people will vote for can be a dicey business, which is why this bracket should be fun
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6/24/00 Rhythm-driven bliss
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@spaced said: See, this is the fun thing about these brackets. I think Bangor is really boring for the most part. I wouldn't put it in my top 10 tweezers, and it's not even my favorite tweez from that month. I'd put 11/23 St. Louis and 11/28 Bozemon over Bangor any day.Good point. I can't wait to see the results.
Just goes to show that making predictions about what people will vote for can be a dicey business, which is why this bracket should be fun
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Bump. Next round starts Monday at noon.
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12/14/95 vs. 10/22/95 is a brutal first round draw for both. Cool idea!
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@tweezer said: 12/14/95 vs. 10/22/95 is a brutal first round draw for both. Cool idea!Yeah. I went 10/22 but that might have been the one I stated at the longest.
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^ i guess I stared at about a 1/3 of them for a while...
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