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Page sings falsetto not head voice

nbullard Permalink
nbullard Yet another reason for the prolific aweso needs if Phish...Page's high harmonies are sung with a true falsetto. You can hear the resonance of falsetto as it is fully supported by breath, as opposed to the "shrillness" of head voice. It adds to the richness of sound we love so much. And as always "PSRS!"
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Jimmymac03 Permalink
Jimmymac03 He could a been a Beatle.
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties Duh.

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You guys weren't in choir...
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mjrphishhead Permalink
mjrphishhead Can you please explain the difference for a choir noob such as I?
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Jimmymac03 Permalink
Jimmymac03 One is awesome. One sucks. Its sounds better to do it the better way. The other way kind of sucks.
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties @mjrphishhead

Sing the backing vocals for Brian and Robert, that's you singing falsetto (unless you're a freak of nature). You'll understand the difference in feeling/sound when you try to hit those notes

Easiest way I could think of typing this but iv been drinking...anyone got something better?
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Jimmymac03 Permalink
Jimmymac03 @poonutties said:
@mjrphishhead

Sing the backing vocals for Brian and Robert, that's you singing falsetto (unless you're a freak of nature). You'll understand the difference in feeling/sound when you try to hit those notes

Easiest way I could think of typing this but iv been drinking...anyone got something better?
That was horrible. See my second post. All is answered.
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mjrphishhead Permalink
mjrphishhead So an example of head voice would be...?
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties An example would be Trey singing chalkdust, or mostly Trey singing anything really.
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties Ps don't mean to step on your toes @jimmymac03 I know you had it right
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mjrphishhead Permalink
mjrphishhead So anything that's not falsetto is head voice? Gotcha.
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties @mjrphishhead said:
So anything that's not falsetto is head voice? Gotcha.
Well not necessarily, I can sing a lot of notes that are much lower than my head voice.. Headvoice would be what your comfortable range is without manipulating your voice much
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Jimmymac03 Permalink
Jimmymac03 Head voice is forced. Falsetto is more natural and rich sounding. Is that somewhat accurate?
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mjrphishhead Permalink
mjrphishhead @poonutties said:
@mjrphishhead said:
So anything that's not falsetto is head voice? Gotcha.
Well not necessarily, I can sing a lot of notes that are much lower than my head voice.. Headvoice would be what your comfortable range is without manipulating your voice much
Ahh ok I see, I see. Thanks for the help brother! Same to you @Jimmymac03, always insightful.
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poonutties Permalink
poonutties Falsetto and head voice are the same thing. It's that top of your mouth, nasally, sinus space you use to sing high notes.

What I thought people meant by head voice in this thread was natural range. Which is the notes you can sing without stress. You're either a bass, baritone, tenor, alto, or soprano, naturally (of course it's a scale). I was between bass and baritone. Like I said, try to sing the backups in Brian and robert and you'll understand falsetto. Watch the part in bittersweet motel and you'll see how fish has to contort his head to hit those notes. You'll need to do the same.
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mjrphishhead Permalink
mjrphishhead Yeah I always knew what falsetto was but I had just never heard the term "head voice" before. Interesting to learn about.
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nbullard Permalink
nbullard Yet another reason for the prolific aweso needs if Phish...Page's high harmonies are sung with a true falsetto. You can hear the resonance of falsetto as it is fully supported by breath, as opposed to the "shrillness" of head voice. It adds to the richness of sound we love so much. And as always "PSRS!"

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Falsetto is when someone sings notes at the top of their range (high notes), using their chest cavity as the primary resonator. The sound is more supported by breath (airy, flute-like, Page's harmonies). Head voice is when someone sings the same note, but the primary resonator is the head cavity. This gives the singing voice a more shrill sound (think Prince).

There is an exception...In YEM. Head voice is used for effect. The high shrill sound sounds like car horns...European maybe...Washyofee?
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nbullard Permalink
nbullard @mjrphishhead said:
Yeah I always knew what falsetto was but I had just never heard the term "head voice" before. Interesting to learn about.
Falsetto is when someone sings notes at the top of their range (high notes), using their chest cavity as the primary resonator. The sound is more supported by breath (airy, flute-like, Page's harmonies). Head voice is when someone sings the same note, but the primary resonator is the head cavity. This gives the singing voice a more shrill sound (think Prince).

There is an exception...In YEM. Head voice is used for effect. The high shrill sound sounds like car horns...European maybe...Washyofee?
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cactoid Permalink
cactoid this thread needs more Neil Young
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nbullard Permalink
nbullard Helpless, helpless, helpless...
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