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20 Years Later

JayDubya Permalink
JayDubya That song melts the hearts of jaded vets everywhere.

Trey is plucking my hearstrings during the solo.

:: we all start out small ::

amiright?
Score: 22

BernardShakey Permalink
BernardShakey I didn't like it at all when I heard it on joy, but I've heard live versions I've enjoyed. What is your favorite/the best live version, OP?
Score: 1

JayDubya Permalink
JayDubya Placement during the set and flow seem to work in this songs favor. The Dicks and NYE versions lately have fit well I think.
Score: 1

thelot Permalink
thelot @JayDubya said:
That song melts the hearts of jaded vets everywhere.

Trey is plucking my hearstrings during the solo.

:: we all start out small ::

amiright?
No doubt
Score: 3

BernardShakey Permalink
BernardShakey How much of that song is autobiographically accurate, would you guess? Some wild claims in the lyrics lol.
Score: 1

JayDubya Permalink
JayDubya Well, he is a submarine
Score: 9

kidrob Permalink
kidrob @BernardShakey said:
How much of that song is autobiographically accurate, would you guess? Some wild claims in the lyrics lol.
i bet it's not that far fetched. plus the lyrics are trey post rehab. i'm sure he "once didn't sleep for four days and three night" at some point in his grueling career. some of the lyrics may be far fetched as well. other lyrics in the song are figures of speech. and the end, maybe he does feel better and more free now.

love this song. glad to see it possibly hitting the rotation. i think it had some jam potential they havn't touched on yet. this could be a very progressive tune in 2013.
Score: 10

dkast85 Permalink
dkast85 @JayDubya said:
Placement during the set and flow seem to work in this songs favor. The Dicks and NYE versions lately have fit well I think.
i agree. When you play a set as legendary as the sets on 12/30/12 and 9/2/12 playing 20YL is cool with me.
Score: 2

Andrewishomer Permalink
Andrewishomer I love that song. I hope he wouldn't ever run 7 red lights again though.
Score: 6

MiguelSanchez Permalink
MiguelSanchez @JayDubya said:
Placement during the set and flow seem to work in this songs favor. The Dicks and NYE versions lately have fit well I think.
very true. i don't think this work would be all that great if it just randomly popped up in the first set, but you throw it on after a mind bending 15-25min jam....that works.
Score: 0

Jimmymac03 Permalink
Jimmymac03 I fell in love with 20 Years Later on 12/30/12.
Score: 9

llama Permalink
Fond of augusta10 version. Really overlooked 2nd set here. The light is tight.
Score: 2

skillz Permalink
Love it feel like it has potential to be a good jam vehicle was hoping for them to extend it on the 30th after that DWD
Score: 0

dscott Permalink
@BernardShakey said:
How much of that song is autobiographically accurate, would you guess? Some wild claims in the lyrics lol.
It's probably about as autobiographical as it is pan-biographical. We do all sorts of outlandish stuff when we are young, some more so than others. Might be shared shenanigans or unwitnessed solitary sojourns. The experiences transform us, but are we really any different on the other side?

Lots of heady stuff on that Joy album. Ironic title, as so much of it reflects on the process of being dragged kicking and screaming into responsible adulthood...and in a blink that becomes middle age. Where does the time go???
Score: 5

MomentsandSeconds Permalink
MomentsandSeconds one of the best songs they've written in a while
Score: 1

spanishmoon Permalink
spanishmoon I've liked this song this the first time I heard it. I love the base line in the second half. Mike teases this song at Oak Mt during Rock and Roll, 14:45
Score: 0

meanpete Permalink
interesting song. by itself, it thoroughly unimpresses me. live, it always seems to find a right place/right time and winds up enhancing the set. the song structure is built to carry a set out of the space/darkness into an almost poppy place, then plunge it back into the darkness with the finishing solo. i'll take it as a late 3rd/early 4th "ballad" anyday.
Score: 0

careful_w_that_axe_Miller Permalink
careful_w_that_axe_Miller End got me:

Inside this silence see, all are free all are free
Second time around
Inside this silence see, all are free all are free
Second time around
Inside this silence see, all are free all are free
Second time around
Inside this silence see, all are free all are free
Second time around
Inside this silence see, all are free, all are free, all are free...

Score: 5

Abrahm Permalink
Abrahm @BernardShakey said:
I didn't like it at all when I heard it on joy, but I've heard live versions I've enjoyed. What is your favorite/the best live version, OP?
Have you heard the version from 10/19/10?

October 19, 2010

Augusta Civic Center, Augusta, ME

Set 1: Chalk Dust Torture, Back on the Train, Torn and Frayed, Bathtub Gin, Gumbo, Divided Sky, Jesus Just Left Chicago, Nellie Kane > 46 Days > Possum

Set 2: Fuck Your Face > Mike's Song[1] -> Fuck Your Face > Light -> Twenty Years Later > Fast Enough for You[2], Weekapaug Groove, Halley's Comet > Free > Harry Hood > Golgi Apparatus, A Day in the Life

Encore: Reba[3], Backwards Down the Number Line

[1] Fuck Your Face tease.
[2] I Am Hydrogen drumbeat at start from Fishman.
[3] Manteca quote from Fish; no whistling.

Notes: Mike's Song contained a Fuck Your Face tease. Fast Enough for You started with Fishman playing the drumbeat to I Am Hydrogen. Reba contained a Manteca quote from Fish and did not have the whistling ending.  

Score: 2

007below Permalink
007below dicks made me love the song and 12/30 just made me love it even more
Score: 2

driver Permalink
driver @careful_w_that_axe_Miller said:
End got me:

Inside this silence see, all are free all are free
Second time around
Inside this silence see, all are free all are free
Second time around
Inside this silence see, all are free all are free
Second time around
Inside this silence see, all are free all are free
Second time around
Inside this silence see, all are free, all are free, all are free...
It gets really eerie sounding, doesn't it? It caught me off guard on 12/30, but it fit with the dark set perfectly.
Score: 3

forbin1 Permalink
forbin1 I caught the debut of this at JB in '09..wasn't really feeling it then...it's starting to grow on me..slowly though...
Score: 1

themindpilot Permalink
themindpilot My big question is, Why doesn't Trey solo towards the end of this song anymore?

Listen to the one from Dicks and you can hear the band is waiting for trey to start improving and he never really does he just kind of pretends he doesn't have a solo...









Even on the 12/30/12 version he only does the trippy soloing thing for like 1 measure then closes the song.

Why isn't he doing the super trippy backwards sounding soloing like he does in the video below from 4:46-5:54?





hmmmm...
Score: 1

fanman900 Permalink
fanman900 Was spinning this just this morning. Love this jam, bethel 10 is a good version!
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Score: 1

kipmat Permalink
kipmat I agree that Augusta '10 is the winner for best live version to date, but 8/16/09 SPAC is no slouch. I also have a soft spot for 8/7/10 Greek III, between another killer Light and a decent Hood. (Summer '10 is underrated!)

Twenty Years Later definitely has potential for some Type II jamming glory. Makes me wonder if Trey is avoiding using his "backwards guitar" effect, since it can be hit-or-miss.

Interesting that the song was dropped after 5/29/11 Bethel. Any theories?
Score: 0

waxbanks Permalink
waxbanks i think of 20YL as trey calling that absolutely fantastic tune Come As Melody out of retirement, in disguise, just to wring some well-deserved tears out of older phish fans.

Steam, No Quarter, and a couple of trey's solo tunes explore the same sonic space, but 20YL is the heartdestroyer of the group.
Score: 5

WasteOfTime Permalink
WasteOfTime Twenty Years Later is a good example of how it can be difficult to judge a show from a recording. I generally like this song but can't say when I'm driving my car in traffic or walking to the grocery store and it comes on I'm guaranteed to be excited. At the show...universally...it is beautiful and everything good about 3.0 Phish. Solidly written, generally well executed and performed with emotion.
Score: 3

Herbdacious Permalink
Herbdacious my first phish show i was tripping so hard after the first set i was trying to convince my friends we had heard enough music, and it was time to leave. during a 30 min BDNTL opener of the second set. we sat on the spac grass and aventually walked back over and i thought ok a couple more songs. we just caught the seague from BDTNL-> 20YL and 20YL calmed me down and got me back into the show.

August 16, 2009

Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY

Set 1: Llama, The Moma Dance, Guyute, Anything But Me, Cars Trucks Buses, Chalk Dust Torture, Golgi Apparatus, David Bowie, Cavern > Possum, Ocelot, Run Like an Antelope

Set 2: Backwards Down the Number Line -> Twenty Years Later, Halley's Comet > Rock and Roll, Harpua -> I Kissed a Girl[1] > Hold Your Head Up > Harpua, You Enjoy Myself

Encore: Grind, I Been Around[2], Highway to Hell

[1] Phish debut.
[2] Debut.

Notes: The Harpua narration centered on a depressed Jimmy calling on his Spirit Guide who happened to be a “funny little man wearing a dress” who spoke truth through song (in this case, I Kissed a Girl). This show featured the Phish debut of I Kissed a Girl (described by Trey as “so wrong on so many levels”).  After Harpua, Trey remarked to Fish that he was waiting for the day when Fish went to see Katy Perry and she performed a Phish song, prompting Fish to declare, “I don’t apologize to Katy Perry for that. I only apologize to [the audience].” Prior to the encore, Trey stated that it was hard to play the last show of the tour because they felt like they could just keep going.  Before starting the debut performance of I Been Around, Trey explained that they were playing it because he realized that it was the one song off of the upcoming album (Joy) that they hadn’t played live.



Score: 2

embezzla Permalink
embezzla I'll take this opportunity to plug one of my fav shows and 2nd sets in particular for me. Nothing is such a happy up and up song and then 20 years later is kinda dark,fun back to back songs, plucks my heartstrings in a dark way, though wouldnt claim to be a vet.

June 24, 2010

Susquehanna Bank Center, Camden, NJ

Set 1: David Bowie, Stealing Time From the Faulty Plan, Water in the Sky, Ocelot, Uncle Pen, Boogie On Reggae Woman, Gumbo > Timber (Jerry) > I Didn't Know[1], Birds of a Feather, Bouncing Around the Room, Reba[2], The Rover[3]

Set 2: Down with Disease[4] -> Crosseyed and Painless > Nothing > Twenty Years Later > Harry Hood > Fluffhead > Julius, You Enjoy Myself

Encore: Bug

[1] "Let's Go Flyers" chant from some fans during vacuum solo with Fish responding through his vacuum.
[2] No whistling.
[3] Phish debut.
[4] Unfinished.

Notes: During I Didn't Know, Trey mentioned his prediction from the 6/7/09 Camden show that the Flyers would win the Stanley Cup and announced that Fish would play a voodoo vacuum solo to guarantee that next year the Flyers will win the Cup. During the solo, some fans in the audience then began chanting "Let's Go Flyers," prompting Fish to respond through the vacuum in time with the claps. Reba did not have the whistling ending. The Rover was a Phish debut. Disease was unfinished. At the start of the YEM vocal jam, some fans again chanted "Let's Go Flyers."

Score: 0

walstib Permalink
walstib That final jam is so dark. I love it. I would love to see them extend that part for a couple extra minutes.
Score: 2

_________________________ Permalink
_________________________ I got into the studio version last year sometime and I almost melted when I realized they were playing it on 12-30. It was perfectly placed on 12-30
Score: 3

WickerAndCork Permalink
WickerAndCork @Herbdacious said:
my first phish show i was tripping so hard after the first set i was trying to convince my friends we had heard enough music, and it was time to leave. during a 30 min BDNTL opener of the second set. we sat on the spac grass and aventually walked back over and i thought ok a couple more songs. we just caught the seague from BDTNL-> 20YL and 20YL calmed me down and got me back into the show.
It's a very grounding song. That's what I love about it. I agree with others here that it could go to a very intense TII place.
Score: 1

spencur6 Permalink
spencur6 I was privileged enough to see it in 2010 and then this past november i got to listen to it when i turned 20. It was a strange feeling listening to it and being 20...cuz i do feel i'm still upside down.
Score: 2

gratephul_67 Permalink
gratephul_67 I been lucky 4x and 11/24/09 got overlooked. It's my favorite I've seen.
November 24, 2009

Wachovia Center, Philadelphia, PA

Set 1: Chalk Dust Torture, Bathtub Gin, Cities > Camel Walk, The Curtain With, The Wedge, The Moma Dance, Reba[1], Golgi Apparatus, Stealing Time From the Faulty Plan

Set 2: Possum > Down with Disease[2] > Twenty Years Later > Harry Hood > The Mango Song > Mike's Song > Simple > Slave to the Traffic Light > Weekapaug Groove[3]

Encore: A Day in the Life

[1] No whistling.
[2] Unfinished.
[3] Slowed down in parts.

Notes: Cities was played in response to a fan with a sign requesting the song and featured alternative lyrics referencing Thanksgiving. Reba did not have the whistling ending. Disease was unfinished. Much of Weekapaug was played at a significantly slower pace than normal. Prior to ADITL, Fish teased the Weekapaug drumbeat.

Score: 1

the_Crested_Hogchoker Permalink
the_Crested_Hogchoker 20 Years ago I was drawing dicks and turds all over the neighborhood with sidewalk chalk.
Score: 1

Bikepgh Permalink
Nobody has mentioned my favorite which is the 6/4/11 show. The BDTNL> 20 years is golden!

June 12, 2010

Blossom Music Center, Cuyahoga Falls, OH

Set 1: Look Out Cleveland[1], Ocelot, Water in the Sky, Stash, The Ballad of Curtis Loew, Sample in a Jar, Time Turns Elastic, Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove

Set 2: Rock and Roll > Harry Hood > Backwards Down the Number Line > Twenty Years Later, Instant Karma![1] > The Oh Kee Pa Ceremony > Suzy Greenberg > Waste > Character Zero

Encore: The Squirming Coil

[1] Phish debut.

Notes: Look Out Cleveland and Instant Karma! made their Phish debuts at this show.

Score: 1

myMomaDontDance Permalink
myMomaDontDance @JayDubya said:
Placement during the set and flow seem to work in this songs favor. The Dicks and NYE versions lately have fit well I think.
I agree. Fits for a perfect come down song after a hot jam. Then the final breakdown gets heavy again realllll quick.
Score: 0

kipmat Permalink
kipmat Twenty years ago I was in DC for Clinton's first inauguration. It was a high school trip, and I believe I also tried to impress a female student by playing the Spin Doctors for her on her walkman. 20-year-fail.
Score: 3

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