When do u say ok brady. Time 2 retire. U won 3-4 superbowls but none in the last 10 yrs. The conference champs r great & all but you cant beat the mannings anymore. When do u say its time and start looking for a new qb

@phishhheads said:

When do u say ok brady. Time 2 retire. U won 3-4 superbowls but none in the last 10 yrs. The conference champs r great & all but you cant beat the mannings anymore. When do u say its time and start looking for a new qb

Seriously? Do you even watch football?

Granted the Pats sure are not the team they were years ago, but they win the division just about every year, get in the playoffs and have made the AFC Champ game two straight years. Yeah man, sounds like they need a new QB.

They are consistently among the favorites EVERY YEAR to have a shot at the SB. One team can't be expected to win it all every year.

As far as your Manning comments, the brothers were at home watching Brady play for the AFC Champ last night. Eli didn't even make the playoffs....maybe NYG need a new QB

Haters gonna hate.

0 points in the 2nd half at home in the championship game? Somethings wrong. We all know we can't blame game plan because the coach is the greatest genius to ever live. So who's to blame? Must be the QB. 9 years without a SB suggests that maybe, just maybe, he's not as legendary as the league and New Englander's try to make him. One of the best ever? Yes. Still not a good as the over the top ridiculous hype he gets. I swear people think he's won the last 6 Super Bowls. I know people in these parts still think they went 19-0.

Now let's talk Belichick. A real man has humility. This classless cheaters ego is so big he doesn't have the humility it takes to do the post game interview like every other coach he's ever beat has done. Nobody deserves the failure more. Not humble at all. I'm just guessing but I get the impression he also beats women, children and small animals.

In all honesty. He's still one of the best in the game but he's also past his peak. How many seasons does he have left? 4 at the most? Hasn't got "IT" done in 9 years, is it going to happen again?

Time to think about drafting the replacement and storing him like Rodgers was.

@Oblivious_Fool said:

He didn't do an on field interview with Shannon sharp who notoriously hates the patriots and bill belichick. Not surprised bill didn't want to speak to him. He still held his post game press conference. Like every other coach does.

Not the first time he's done this. Left the Super Bowl with time still on the clock!!! No excuses. Even if Sharpe hates him and the Pats, that what humility is. That's exactly what I'm talking about. A real man sucks it up and takes the lumps no matter who it is. He's a coward and a very ,very, very sore loser.

Last night was full of stupid mistakes that cost them the game (that attempt at hurry up offense, dropped passes, missed first down opportunities, etc.) They played like shit and lost, really all there is to it.

@poonutties said:

Last night was full of stupid mistakes that cost them the game (that attempt at hurry up offense, dropped passes, missed first down opportunities, etc.) They played like shit and lost, really all there is to it.

Pretty much.

@Oblivious_Fool said:

He didn't do an on field interview with Shannon sharp who notoriously hates the patriots and bill belichick. Not surprised bill didn't want to speak to him. He still held his post game press conference. Like every other coach does.

Shannon sits in a studio. He doesn't really interview...if he did it would be like watching the worst episode of the Mister Ed show.

@Oblivious_Fool said:

He didn't do an on field interview with Shannon sharp who notoriously hates the patriots and bill belichick. Not surprised bill didn't want to speak to him. He still held his post game press conference. Like every other coach does.

The interview was with steve tasker. Sharpe just pissed and moaned about it. If I had been to 5 superbowls in 12 years, I wouldn't feel obligated to talk to these media stooges either. He does a post game press conference, what more do they need?

I think its about time they start thinking 3-4 years into the future. Start grooming a successor like Green Bay did with Aaron Rodgers when Favre was in his twilight years. Give him a few seasons on the bench to learn from one of the true greats this game has ever seen. I'm not sure if they're already doing this or not...

But to suggest they pull the plug and start someone next season is crazy. Brady is still a Top 5 QB and New England is still a Top 5 team. Not every team can do what Indy did this year and hit the ground running with a rookie and make the playoffs.

P.S. I'm a lifelong Lions fan as well. We'd kill to experience these "failures" of which you speak.

@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:

@Oblivious_Fool said:

He didn't do an on field interview with Shannon sharp who notoriously hates the patriots and bill belichick. Not surprised bill didn't want to speak to him. He still held his post game press conference. Like every other coach does.

The interview was with steve tasker. Sharpe just pissed and moaned about it. If I had been to 5 superbowls in 12 years, I wouldn't feel obligated to talk to these media stooges either. He does a post game press conference, what more do they need?

Those media contracts help pay his check and keep the league as popular as it is. The coaches have an obligation to accommodate the networks that paid hundreds of millions for broadcast rights. Belichick is fully aware of his obligation.

@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:

@walstib said:

@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:

@Oblivious_Fool said:

He didn't do an on field interview with Shannon sharp who notoriously hates the patriots and bill belichick. Not surprised bill didn't want to speak to him. He still held his post game press conference. Like every other coach does.

The interview was with steve tasker. Sharpe just pissed and moaned about it. If I had been to 5 superbowls in 12 years, I wouldn't feel obligated to talk to these media stooges either. He does a post game press conference, what more do they need?

Those media contracts help pay his check and keep the league as popular as it is. The coaches have an obligation to accommodate the networks that paid hundreds of millions for broadcast rights. Belichick is fully aware of his obligation.

Like I said, isn't a press conference enough? You've got to have some publicity-hungry lackey shove a microphone in front of a losing coaches face minutes after being eliminated? It actually isn't an obligation, its a customary practice. I get that it's shitting where you eat to some degree, but they pimp the Pats storylines year round, Tasker can f*** off.

it is a contracual obligation. Why do 99.9 of coaches/managers do it?Because it is in their contract that they have to do it. Do you think most coaches want to do a weekly radio spot on local sports radio after shitty loses too?

@Superballin said:

It's funny how happy the Patriots can make fans of all other 31 NFL teams, especially when they lose.

...fix'd

@the_Crested_Hogchoker said:

...I read earlier todat that it was only a courtest type of thing... press conferences are contractual

this is possible.

I think Brady is amazing. Not a huge fan of Belihick though. I recognize his genius but think his sportsmanship sucks and the entire Pats organization should be embarrassed by his behavior over the years.

They can't win because of Karma not because of Brady.

ITT:

People talking shit about New England.

@wicker15 said:

kinda like saying the Bulls should have gotten rid of this dude back in the day...

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/albumpicture.php?albumid=1302&pictureid=9873

MJ was 35 when he retired from the Bulls for his 2nd time. He played for Wash after that. Brady is 35 now. So essentially they did "get rid" of him at this same point.

@Mr_Incompletely said:

Can cactus play qb?

yeah, he plays by the same philosophy as Jay Cutler, "f*** it, I'm going deep..."

@SicMD said:

cheaters do win....... the new england cheatriots have not won the big one since spygate. they cant beat you if they dont already know what your going to do....they dont need new coach or new qb. i think they need new fans....

Since the Jets game in 2007 the Patriots have a record of 80-24 (regular season and playoffs), best in the NFL by about 20 lengths. They have won five division titles in six years (the Jets have won 29 fewer regular-season games over the last six years, and that's the second-best record in the AFC East over that span), four AFC title game appearances and two trips to the Super Bowl. Seventeen teams in NFL history have scored more than 500 points in a season and four of those seasons have come from the Patriots since 2007.

@RunawayJim4180 said:

@SicMD said:

cheaters do win....... the new england cheatriots have not won the big one since spygate. they cant beat you if they dont already know what your going to do....they dont need new coach or new qb. i think they need new fans....

Since the Jets game in 2007 the Patriots have a record of 80-24 (regular season and playoffs), best in the NFL by about 20 lengths. They have won five division titles in six years (the Jets have won 29 fewer regular-season games over the last six years, and that's the second-best record in the AFC East over that span), four AFC title game appearances and two trips to the Super Bowl. Seventeen teams in NFL history have scored more than 500 points in a season and four of those seasons have come from the Patriots since 2007.

no one was saying the Jets don't suck, that is a given

@Sprachtor said:

@RunawayJim4180 said:

They haven't won another Super Bowl because of the shortcomings on the defensive side of the ball, and were quite literally a few plays away from two more titles (David Re-Tyree and Manningham/Welker drop). Its convenient to point at no super bowls since spygate, but the evidence doesnt really hold up.

Oh, I get it. It was the defenses fault for the offense getting shut out in the second half.

just like its Peyton Manning's fault Champ Bailey blew his coverage again the Ravens

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@Sprachtor said:

@RunawayJim4180 said:

They haven't won another Super Bowl because of the shortcomings on the defensive side of the ball, and were quite literally a few plays away from two more titles (David Re-Tyree and Manningham/Welker drop). Its convenient to point at no super bowls since spygate, but the evidence doesnt really hold up.

Oh, I get it. It was the defenses fault for the offense getting shut out in the second half.

just like its Peyton Manning's fault Champ Bailey blew his coverage again the Ravens

Oh stop it. Bailey was beyond awful, can't be denied. But Manning has 8 one and done performances in the playoffs and a losing record. Give me a break, dude is beyond a choke job.

@Sprachtor said:

@RunawayJim4180 said:

In a way, yes. You take a 13-7 game at the half, momentum pretty much neutral, and then let Baltimore score 21 straight points (Talib getting hurt was enormous, as he was the Pats best cover corner on Boldin) and boom, momentum swings in a huge way. Add two fluke turnovers in the second half, and there you go.

You can't take one game out of the 18 they played this year and suddenly pin everything on Tom Brady. The guy threw 34 touchdowns against 8 picks with 4,800 yards after all. Just absurd numbers year after year. That's like pinning the Saint's record on Drew Brees, or Green Bay's early playoff exit on Aaron Rodgers. Its a team sport, more than any other.

Nobody is saying it's all Brady fault. It's just funny you have an offense highly designed to get Welker the damn ball and he can't hang on. Last year in the bowl he came up small and this year after Pollard whacked him on 3rd and 7 he heard footsteps and couldn't hang on. The riddler gets knocked the F out. The Ravens are real men out there, finesse football won't beat them.

Welker led the NFL in drops this season. Not good for a contract year.

I think the drops may be a product of volume, as he also had the second most catches and I believe top 5 in targets. The drops in big situations are tough to swallow, though.

Side note, anyone see how hot his wife is? That would make the drops a bit easier to swallow (thats what she said)

Nice