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@Sprachtor said: @Blackeydsloth said:I would have to completely disagree with some of this.This is one of my favorite quotes pertaining to that 9/19/99 StashIt's pretty damn easy to see why one would say that. Phish had been evolving at a speed of light since late 96 and things started to slow down as far as creativity and new style. The jamming was still good, no one said the years sucked, but you would have to be deaf to not notice the drop-off.
"People who think Phish declined in 1999 should be punched in the face."
thank you @Dog_Faced_Boy if your the commenter
Being a fan of Phish is sort of like being a fine wine connoisseur. If you don't understand the small intricacies you might as well give up.
Phish was evoling at the speed of light all through the '90s. '98 to '99 was a huge jump. '98 they def had that ambient style, but it ws different then what they were doing in '99. '99 seemed more of a space funk textural style. The ambient jamming sounded much, much different. I do agree that there was more emphasis on small changes in the jamming (as in, very small variances in the music, as opposed to the major changes the previous years). I certainly wouldn't say the band fell off at all. The only "balck mark" I would give to these years, and this wouldn't even become apparent until much, much later, is reports have come out that around '99 the black cloud of drugs first started to really appear at this time. Yes, there was sloppier playing and much more missed lyrics and compositional flubs. But if Phish is all about jamming, 1999 was a huge leap FORWARD.
Just my $0.02
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@JayDubya said: 10.2.99 AUD Remaster by Kenny PowersLOVE this 2nd set. One of my favorites from this era
Linky Clicky
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@bostonron said: @Sprachtor said:There is a ton to argue here. I guess it all depends on your stylistic leanings. But the jamming became a little slower and the band loosened up and the idea of a show as a complete work seemed to dissipate. Your list has some great Jams, and I saw more shows in 1999 than any other year, but the complete show from start to finish wasn't as prevalent. I actually trace this back to fall 98 which I didn't particularly care for either. But of the shows I liked, I go back to 7-25-99 for it's completeness.@Blackeydsloth said:I would have to completely disagree with some of this.This is one of my favorite quotes pertaining to that 9/19/99 StashIt's pretty damn easy to see why one would say that. Phish had been evolving at a speed of light since late 96 and things started to slow down as far as creativity and new style. The jamming was still good, no one said the years sucked, but you would have to be deaf to not notice the drop-off.
"People who think Phish declined in 1999 should be punched in the face."
thank you @Dog_Faced_Boy if your the commenter
Being a fan of Phish is sort of like being a fine wine connoisseur. If you don't understand the small intricacies you might as well give up.
Phish was evoling at the speed of light all through the '90s. '98 to '99 was a huge jump. '98 they def had that ambient style, but it ws different then what they were doing in '99. '99 seemed more of a space funk textural style. The ambient jamming sounded much, much different. I do agree that there was more emphasis on small changes in the jamming (as in, very small variances in the music, as opposed to the major changes the previous years). I certainly wouldn't say the band fell off at all. The only "balck mark" I would give to these years, and this wouldn't even become apparent until much, much later, is reports have come out that around '99 the black cloud of drugs first started to really appear at this time. Yes, there was sloppier playing and much more missed lyrics and compositional flubs. But if Phish is all about jamming, 1999 was a huge leap FORWARD.
Just my $0.02
The focus, especially on this board of listing great jams, encourages the practice of rating a show great simply because it had a great jam or two in it. It's just not the case. The Virginia Beach show from early in this summer was awful, but it did contain some rare and solid jamming. But that was 99 in a nutshell for me. Extreme highs but very dark lows.
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Awesome....thanks @bostonron. I must say I find Fall 2000 uninspired at times. Sometimes it is great other times I'm shaking my head(one of the Mango songs is an example from that tour[not the one they jam out]).I must admit I'm lacking in 99/00. My first shows were supposed to be those years. My cousin did the full summer tour in '99 and '00 and wanted to bring 14 and 15 year old me to great woods but the parents wouldn't have it.
I will definitely refer to this thread!
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@Sprachtor said: @bostonron said:Good fair points. Personally, if a show has one or two great jams, I consider that a success. I prefer the long jamming (ever spotty) to a full show without a monster jam. I knwo that's not what you're saying, but I'm just trying to paint a picture of why I really like these years.@Sprachtor said:There is a ton to argue here. I guess it all depends on your stylistic leanings. But the jamming became a little slower and the band loosened up and the idea of a show as a complete work seemed to dissipate. Your list has some great Jams, and I saw more shows in 1999 than any other year, but the complete show from start to finish wasn't as prevalent. I actually trace this back to fall 98 which I didn't particularly care for either. But of the shows I liked, I go back to 7-25-99 for it's completeness.@Blackeydsloth said:I would have to completely disagree with some of this.This is one of my favorite quotes pertaining to that 9/19/99 StashIt's pretty damn easy to see why one would say that. Phish had been evolving at a speed of light since late 96 and things started to slow down as far as creativity and new style. The jamming was still good, no one said the years sucked, but you would have to be deaf to not notice the drop-off.
"People who think Phish declined in 1999 should be punched in the face."
thank you @Dog_Faced_Boy if your the commenter
Being a fan of Phish is sort of like being a fine wine connoisseur. If you don't understand the small intricacies you might as well give up.
Phish was evoling at the speed of light all through the '90s. '98 to '99 was a huge jump. '98 they def had that ambient style, but it ws different then what they were doing in '99. '99 seemed more of a space funk textural style. The ambient jamming sounded much, much different. I do agree that there was more emphasis on small changes in the jamming (as in, very small variances in the music, as opposed to the major changes the previous years). I certainly wouldn't say the band fell off at all. The only "balck mark" I would give to these years, and this wouldn't even become apparent until much, much later, is reports have come out that around '99 the black cloud of drugs first started to really appear at this time. Yes, there was sloppier playing and much more missed lyrics and compositional flubs. But if Phish is all about jamming, 1999 was a huge leap FORWARD.
Just my $0.02
The focus, especially on this board of listing great jams, encourages the practice of rating a show great simply because it had a great jam or two in it. It's just not the case. The Virginia Beach show from early in this summer was awful, but it did contain some rare and solid jamming. But that was 99 in a nutshell for me. Extreme highs but very dark lows.
I totally understand that not everyone likes '99-'00. It def isn't for anyone. But I really love this style of jamming. I think it was indicitive of the times, a big leap stylistically for the boys and something that you can hear in their music even today.
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addressing @bostonron's and @sprachtor's discussion:I hit my first show in '95, and '99 was the first year where i found myself saying "trey seems f***ed up and they seem to be on the decline a bit." I wouldn't say it was an enormous drop off, but it was noticable. sloppiness really started to come into the picture that year.
now, i can't complain too much. i did see some damn good shows/jams that year, but that trance sound that they started sporting in december was just not my bag (i've said that on this forum 4,329 times...). Most shows did have one or two jams that totally made it worth the trip/money. Hell, when is it not?! On the flip side, i agree with @sprachtor. the cohesiveness within each show seemed to be slipping or maybe just becoming less important to the band (trey). Also, the crispness of the jams, for lack of a better term, seemed to be lessening. I was not bowled over by their playing at alpine that year. It was interesting, but i greatly prefered the polaris show the night before and the creek show the night after. now, the alpine encore is a whole other story...yowser.
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@Sprachtor said: "@MiguelSanchez said: "@poofer said: "@bostonron said: "@MiguelSanchez said: "@bostonron You plug 7/26/99, possibly the worst phish show I've been to, but no mention of 7/25/99, one of the top shows of the summer?" I mentioned this was originally for a friend who wanted to get into '99. In talking with him he told me he heard 7.25 the other day. There was no reason to mention the show. At almost 11pm last night, after being at this off and on all day, I missed adding the 7.25 gig. As far as 7.26, different strokes. That Wolfmans is a beast. If you can't get into that Wolfmans, I don't know what to tell you." I was at both those shows...they werent epic, but nothing to me stands out as one of the worst Ive seen..." 7/25/99 was pretty damn strong. heads and shoulders above 7/26. mfmf> mlt> whipping post was interesting, to say the least. remember, the chula vista boogie on had not happened yet, so for the time, the boogie on was the shit. birds of a feather and antelope were top shelf. purple rain was funny, and yes, yem kind of sucked. either way, all in all, i count it as a must hear show." One of the best shows of that year. Pretty ridiculous you have to defend it on here."kind of what i was thinking...
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Good thread with a lot of great arguments/points.Not much to add other than Im on the @theemu, @sprachtor, @MiguelSanchez side of this discussion. I didnt see as many shows in these years as I did in years prior, and thats mainly due to the fact that I was starting to lose interest in Live Phish. I still abused my recordings, but Id be lying if I said that I didnt feel a little disconnected at the shows that I attended during those two years.
like @bostonron said...different strokes.
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Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff.
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@Sprachtor said: Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff.im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again
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@Slothberries said: @Sprachtor said:Let me know what you think.Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff.im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again
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7/25/99 is most certainly the best show I've seen.until I change my mind again
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@Sprachtor said: @Slothberries said:Its great. Ive listened to this show many times@Sprachtor said:Let me know what you think.Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff.im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again
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@Slothberries said: @Sprachtor said:Oh, cool. I like it a lot.@Slothberries said:Its great. Ive listened to this show many times@Sprachtor said:Let me know what you think.Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff.im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again
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@Sprachtor said: "@Slothberries said: "@Sprachtor said: "@Slothberries said: "@Sprachtor said: "Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff."im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again"Let me know what you think."Its great. Ive listened to this show many times"
Oh, cool. I like it a lot."
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@bostonron said: "@Sprachtor said: "@bostonron said: "@Sprachtor said: "@Blackeydsloth said: "This is one of my favorite quotes pertaining to that 9/19/99 Stash"People who think Phish declined in 1999 should be punched in the face."
thank you @Dog_Faced_Boy if your the commenter
"It's pretty damn easy to see why one would say that. Phish had been evolving at a speed of light since late 96 and things started to slow down as far as creativity and new style. The jamming was still good, no one said the years sucked, but you would have to be deaf to not notice the drop-off.
Being a fan of Phish is sort of like being a fine wine connoisseur. If you don't understand the small intricacies you might as well give up." I would have to completely disagree with some of this.
Phish was evoling at the speed of light all through the '90s. '98 to '99 was a huge jump. '98 they def had that ambient style, but it ws different then what they were doing in '99. '99 seemed more of a space funk textural style. The ambient jamming sounded much, much different. I do agree that there was more emphasis on small changes in the jamming (as in, very small variances in the music, as opposed to the major changes the previous years). I certainly wouldn't say the band fell off at all. The only "balck mark" I would give to these years, and this wouldn't even become apparent until much, much later, is reports have come out that around '99 the black cloud of drugs first started to really appear at this time. Yes, there was sloppier playing and much more missed lyrics and compositional flubs. But if Phish is all about jamming, 1999 was a huge leap FORWARD.
Just my $0.02"
There is a ton to argue here. I guess it all depends on your stylistic leanings. But the jamming became a little slower and the band loosened up and the idea of a show as a complete work seemed to dissipate. Your list has some great Jams, and I saw more shows in 1999 than any other year, but the complete show from start to finish wasn't as prevalent. I actually trace this back to fall 98 which I didn't particularly care for either. But of the shows I liked, I go back to 7-25-99 for it's completeness.
The focus, especially on this board of listing great jams, encourages the practice of rating a show great simply because it had a great jam or two in it. It's just not the case. The Virginia Beach show from early in this summer was awful, but it did contain some rare and solid jamming. But that was 99 in a nutshell for me. Extreme highs but very dark lows." Good fair points. Personally, if a show has one or two great jams, I consider that a success. I prefer the long jamming (ever spotty) to a full show without a monster jam. I knwo that's not what you're saying, but I'm just trying to paint a picture of why I really like these years.
I totally understand that not everyone likes '99-'00. It def isn't for anyone. But I really love this style of jamming. I think it was indicitive of the times, a big leap stylistically for the boys and something that you can hear in their music even today."
I hear you, and don't get me wrong, I really liked some of that stuff. But after you see some great shows, and in 1998 I saw a ton of them, complete shows were what really satisfied me. Can a shitty show redeem itself with a great jam? Probably. I just feel like a show should flow correctly from start to end. I recall a lot of times standing in the lawn during the 1999 where the band would blow their wads on a huge jam and then everyone would back out and all you would have left is Fish playing some circular beat which just faded out. It's like they were doing great things and then had no idea where to go next. To me I get a little frustrated with too many stop and goes in a show. Using those big moments to piggyback into great moments are what gives us the shows that live on eternally.
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@Sprachtor said: @Slothberries said:Birds> Walk Away was pretty nice@Sprachtor said:Let me know what you think.Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff.im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again
edit: Your previous post was excellent.
slothberries=sprachtor fluffer
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@Slothberries said: @Sprachtor said:As is that Antelope. The real deal.@Slothberries said:Birds> Walk Away was pretty nice@Sprachtor said:Let me know what you think.Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff.im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again
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@Sprachtor said: "@Slothberries said: "@Sprachtor said: "@Slothberries said: "@Sprachtor said: "Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff."im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again"Let me know what you think."Birds> Walk Away was pretty nice
"As is that Antelope. The real deal."
and here come the opening notes.
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@Slothberries said: @Sprachtor said:You could be worse things@Slothberries said:Birds> Walk Away was pretty nice@Sprachtor said:Let me know what you think.Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff.im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again
edit: Your previous post was excellent.
slothberries=sprachtor fluffer
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Ok so I listened to 7/24/1999. Disclaimer: I'm not a super in-depth Phish listener/reviewer. I'm skipping over talking about some of the songs and just getting to the meat and potatoes.The Fluffhead jam, when they first break away from the ending chord progression, starts off pretty awesome. The bassline Mike comes out with to transition into the groovy part is sick. Then the groove bounces along for a while... And a little while longer.... And a little while longer. Around 25:00 they hit a sick funky groove. Then, they don't do anything with it. It just keeps going a little while longer... and then the jam fizzles out. Lots of good ideas here, but they just don't do anything with them. This seems to be a common theme in a lot of jams I hear from this era. It sounds like lazy jamming.
The Tweezer is OK. The Catapult section sounds pretty awful.
I love this Mango jam. It's just upbeat, high energy, bliss the whole way through. Awesome.
I also like the Chalk Dust a lot. The tempo is a bit faster than normal, which I love. Every Chalk Dust should be played this fast IMO. I love the chaotic craziness.
The rest of the show is pretty standard Good Phish. The Alumni Blues from this show rocks. Lots of great blues licks from Trey. I probably won't revisit the first set or Tweezer, but the rest of the second set is great.
Onward to 6-28-2000 -------->
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6-28 Different League than 7-24
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Jeez this Taste is intense. I love Taste.
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http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/3350116/posts I linked this because I agree with this. I find 99/00 have much more in common with 03/04.
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@Sprachtor said: http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/3350116/postsman, some of those people are so stupid. not for their opinions but for their inability to understand what the OP is trying to say.
I linked this because I agree with this. I find 99/00 have much more in common with 03/04.
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@Slothberries said: @Sprachtor said:I hate to break it to you but many of them hold dual citizenship.http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/3350116/postsman, some of those people are so stupid. not for their opinions but for their inability to understand what the OP is trying to say.
I linked this because I agree with this. I find 99/00 have much more in common with 03/04.
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@Sprachtor said: @Slothberries said:oh, im sure.@Sprachtor said:I hate to break it to you but many of them hold dual citizenship.http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/3350116/postsman, some of those people are so stupid. not for their opinions but for their inability to understand what the OP is trying to say.
I linked this because I agree with this. I find 99/00 have much more in common with 03/04.
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multiple people have tried to explain to him how the 0.0's are broken up by hiatus's. like he doesnt know that.
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Jesus christ. I'm going to take a break after that Bathtub Gin. THAT'S the Phish I like!!
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@Slothberries said: multiple people have tried to explain to him how the 0.0's are broken up by hiatus's.Who the hell came p with this system anyway? I also don't agree with his characterization of the golden age being from 88. That's too early for me and I don't dig 80's Phish. Nice to chart the development, but not something in the cd player...ever.
like he doesnt know that.
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@patper said: Jesus christ. I'm going to take a break after that Bathtub Gin. THAT'S the Phish I like!!That was the first show I ever did by myself.
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@Sprachtor said: @Slothberries said:I have no idea. But whoever it was, i doubt it was their intent to use this classification as a means to differentiate between musical stylingsmultiple people have tried to explain to him how the 0.0's are broken up by hiatus's.Who the hell came p with this system anyway? I also don't agree with his characterization of the golden age being from 88. That's too early for me and I don't dig 80's Phish. Nice to chart the development, but not something in the cd player...ever.
like he doesnt know that.
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@Sprachtor said: @patper said:That was super intense in my headphones. Jeez. My brain is still vibrating. My new favorite Gin.Jesus christ. I'm going to take a break after that Bathtub Gin. THAT'S the Phish I like!!That was the first show I ever did by myself.
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@patper said: @Sprachtor said:Gin is pure smoke. Definitely the best I have ever seen.@patper said:That was super intense in my headphones. Jeez. My brain is still vibrating. My new favorite Gin.Jesus christ. I'm going to take a break after that Bathtub Gin. THAT'S the Phish I like!!That was the first show I ever did by myself.
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and no, 88 is not the start of the golden age. I dont think you can even argue that it is. So when does it begin? 92? 92 sounds about right. you can probably argue 91...maybe even 90. But i think that the spring 92 tour was when they first got "serious" about Phish.
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@Slothberries said: and no, 88 is not the start of the golden age. I dont think you can even argue that it is.Would probably say Parksville 91.
So when does it begin? 92? 92 sounds about right. you can probably argue 91...maybe even 90. But i think that the spring 92 tour was when they first got "serious" about Phish.
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Thanks to one of my fav peeps for starting a real good thread. It's nice to have some good phish talk.99 marked an evolution of sorts. I no longer had school to worry about planning my phish around....just a stupid job. So summer I packed the car and headed out on my 1st phish extended tour. We started out on 7/9/99-> Oswego...came home and did Alpine-> Creek (my 1st time and let me point out that I've never missed a creek show since).
But I think the thing that changed a lot of what 97-98 was the stage setup changed. All of a sudden mike was in the middle, Fish was behind and Trey was stage left. Trey obviously was highly influenced by the 1st Tab tour and it slowed everything down....way down. I listen to 97 and the band was as fast as ever...but listen to a show like 7/10/99 and I think it is the most jamming thru mud show I've ever heard from them (in a good way). And this was a show that was shit on for a long time especially when they released it. But I've been reliving it for the past couple weeks and think it stands up with anything from that era. That Fluffhead is so fucking drawn out and meticulous, just great stuff. The older heads I think were a little put off by this time period but I was so enthralled, the evolution from 98 to 99 is just mind boggling. I was scared during that DWD from 7/12/99...it wasn't the same like the year before. The layering and grooving was just fascinating...it was so different for a band that in 93 jammed in the most frenetic style. They would change jams on a dime...great bands evolve. And 99 was the turning point that would lead to the greatest phish show of all time....Big Cypress. Cypress was the culmination of patience. 99 was all about listening hard and surrendering to the flow. By the time we got to December 99...they were in the zone. I was at 12/3/99 and everyone was upset with this fantastic show. A girl turned to me after the 1st set Slave and asked how I could get down to this and I simply said that it was Phish at their finest.
I think 99 is that year that is hard to describe cause the scene was changing (for the worse) but the music was changing for the better. It became a groove centric band. It just took some getting used to.
Now 2000 was a completely different beast all together
And as for 7/24/99....it is one of the strangest shows of that year. I loved it. This is one of the great either you love it or hate shows but phish has had a lot of those. I'm not a big fan of 10/30/10 but peeps love it. Apples and oranges.
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I haven't listened to a lot of the material from these years but I have listened to a few tours. I dunno, winter /99 just seems so blah to me, bar a few really solid shows, and a few above average.
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@Slothberries said: "@Sprachtor said: "@Slothberries said: "@Sprachtor said: "@Slothberries said: "@Sprachtor said: "Threw on some 7-25-99 while working out today. Whipping post was some nice stuff."im actually listening now....im up to Saw it Again"Let me know what you think."Birds> Walk Away was pretty nice
"As is that Antelope. The real deal."
and here come the opening notes."
That is probably the best antelope I've seen
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Yeah - I saw the bulk of my shows in this era and always felt like after 96-98 that something was a little off. Listening back, the shows sound pretty strong. 7-10-99 is obviously excellent. The Tweezer here is perfect space funk from that era and they were locked in the groove. I differ on the 7-3 and 7-4 2000, though. At the time, I didn't really feel those shows. I listened back and they sound good.
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What I hear in '99 Phish is a deliberate attempt - particularly by Trey - to play fewer notes while focusing on tone and texture. It didn't always work, and the sour notes had more space in which to stand out. Still, the music went places that it hadn't gone before. To call it a decline, rather than an evolutionary turn, is to mistake personal taste for objectivity.
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@dscott said: What I hear in '99 Phish is a deliberate attempt - particularly by Trey - to play fewer notes while focusing on tone and texture. It didn't always work, and the sour notes had more space in which to stand out. Still, the music went places that it hadn't gone before. To call it a decline, rather than an evolutionary turn, is to mistake personal taste for objectivity.Maybe it's not. But thanks for your opinion on an opinion which is in no way, shape, or form different than calling it a decline.
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Anyway, my point is if anyone was to be able to make an objective opinion, and I do not believe opinions can't be formed objectively, it was someone who was following the band from night to night and had been for some time.
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spectacular -- thanks for this @bostonron. i'm weak on 99-00; from 12/99 onward it's always seemed nice-but-samey to my ears. gotta put the work in i guess.
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I finished 6-28-2000The fist set is sick, pretty much the whole way through. Chalkdust opener rocks hard. Taste is pretty nuts. Trey and Fishman just completely go off.
Bathtub Gin is absolutely nuts. I broke out in laughter several times. Holy, holy, stuff right here. My new favorite Gin, for sure. Piper keeps the high energy of the set going in great fashion.
The 2nd set, I wasn't as thrilled with as the first set. The Disease is a lot of fun, Trey once again ripping all over the place. Harry Hood has some great, very pretty quieter moments. They sort of rush the peak though. Reminds me of most 3.0 Harry Hoods.
Gotta Jibboo is pretty aimless, and Trey sounds like he's really losing steam at this point in the show. Lazy Mode. Same with the Mike's Song. The break in the jam is fun, but they don't really take this jam anywhere. Full Band Noodle. The gang seems to wake up during the Weekapaug, though, and they shred it out old-school style. Awesome high-energy end to a rather tame set.
First Tube and Loving Cup encore just rock.
Of those two shows I was recommended, I think I'll take 6-28-2000's first set, and 7-24-1999's second set.
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@patper said: I finished 6-28-2000Its been a while since Ive listened to something that I had never heard before and broken out in laughter. Thats such a great feeling.....
The fist set is sick, pretty much the whole way through. Chalkdust opener rocks hard. Taste is pretty nuts. Trey and Fishman just completely go off.
Bathtub Gin is absolutely nuts. I broke out in laughter several times. Holy, holy, stuff right here. My new favorite Gin, for sure. Piper keeps the high energy of the set going in great fashion.
The 2nd set, I wasn't as thrilled with as the first set. The Disease is a lot of fun, Trey once again ripping all over the place. Harry Hood has some great, very pretty quieter moments. They sort of rush the peak though. Reminds me of most 3.0 Harry Hoods.
Gotta Jibboo is pretty aimless, and Trey sounds like he's really losing steam at this point in the show. Lazy Mode. Same with the Mike's Song. The break in the jam is fun, but they don't really take this jam anywhere. Full Band Noodle. The gang seems to wake up during the Weekapaug, though, and they shred it out old-school style. Awesome high-energy end to a rather tame set.
First Tube and Loving Cup encore just rock.
Of those two shows I was recommended, I think I'll take 6-28-2000's first set, and 7-24-1999's second set.
Glad you enjoyed that show.
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@patper. Glad you enjoyed the shows. I'm a little shocked you made no mention of that Mikes on the 28th. I love the effects and layering Trey does towards the middle of the jam. Amd when Fis shith comes in with those drum riffs...holy shit. Dive into the years a bit more. There is some great jamming in this era.
