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So I know that everyone is clamoring about Watkins Glen or somewhere else in NY. Or VT.
But do we have definitive evidence that a return to Limestone is out of the question? I know that the wikipedia page says the military has returned to Loring over the years, and that a Commerce Centre was built up there after 2003 ... but does that definitively mean that Limestone is not an option for another festival, or are we just speculating?
I know that the haters will simply say, "stay tuned brahhh, it's only January," but does anyone know if Limestone is officially out of the equation? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
But do we have definitive evidence that a return to Limestone is out of the question? I know that the wikipedia page says the military has returned to Loring over the years, and that a Commerce Centre was built up there after 2003 ... but does that definitively mean that Limestone is not an option for another festival, or are we just speculating?
I know that the haters will simply say, "stay tuned brahhh, it's only January," but does anyone know if Limestone is officially out of the equation? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't know if it's officially out of the question, but I think it would make more logistical sense to have the festival at a more centrally located and accessible location. I know Limestone has the history factor, but I think ticket sales would be pretty low if it is in Limestone.
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Limestone is a sick location, far out, under the radar, and home to my personal favorite show from the IT festival 8/2/03. But it is VERY far, 13 hours away from me and i'm in upstate New York. Couldn't see it happening :/ Definitely not out of the question though.
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Limestone is just not a viable location today. The phan base is getting old. Limestone is 6 hours from the southern tip of Maine. Way the fuk up there. You could shoot a potato gun into canada. I like the pocono rumor. Although Watkins would be a dream come true. again.
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it would suck? Not that the venue sucks but its SUPER far away from basically anyone who doesn't live in Maine. It's apparently a beast to get into too...I've heard horror stories of waiting in line for 12 hours to get into IT
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I know that Limestone is super far, however ...
The Great Went - 75,000
Lemonwheel - 60,000
IT - 60,000
Super Ball IX - 48,000
I know that comparing numbers / the fan base from 97/98/03 to 2011 may not be fair (for many reasons) ... but I don't think it's fair to assume that a festival in northern Maine would necessarily attract less people, especially given Limestone's rich history. Additionally, it's possible that the further away the festival is (so long as it is still takes place somewhere in New England), the MORE people will attend. Part of the fun of the festival atmosphere is feeling totally removed, off the beaten path, etc. -- and where better to feel that way than beautiful northern Maine?
The Great Went - 75,000
Lemonwheel - 60,000
IT - 60,000
Super Ball IX - 48,000
I know that comparing numbers / the fan base from 97/98/03 to 2011 may not be fair (for many reasons) ... but I don't think it's fair to assume that a festival in northern Maine would necessarily attract less people, especially given Limestone's rich history. Additionally, it's possible that the further away the festival is (so long as it is still takes place somewhere in New England), the MORE people will attend. Part of the fun of the festival atmosphere is feeling totally removed, off the beaten path, etc. -- and where better to feel that way than beautiful northern Maine?
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SBiX had 48,000?
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Super Ball was nowhere near 48,000 and Limestone would be lucky to get half that at this point in my opinion. No thanks on that drive. I've done that twice and prefer somewhere more convenient with offsite accommodations now.
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yea there's only 1 road that goes into the Commerce Center. I-95 would be a parking lot. I took a backroad into SBIX, hit no traffic. 1 hour of traffic on the way out.I do think that if they did do it in Limestone, the nostalgia would kick in and maybe there would be a good draw.
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I was being generous, to avoid being challenged on that point. Other sources report attendance was as low as 30K ... further bolstering my belief that a Limestone festival would actually increase attendance, despite being super far.
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This chatter and complaining about potential traffic issues makes the aging phanbase sound pretty soft, by the way.
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ga$
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Who says its gonna be a freaking repeat location.. New year, new festival, new location, new phish album?
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@Play_IT_Leooo said: I was being generous, to avoid being challenged on that point. Other sources report attendance was as low as 30K ... further bolstering my belief that a Limestone festival would actually increase attendance, despite being super far.30k is more accurate for Super Ball. One lane road in, no airport (actve) anywhere close, lack of hotel or rental properties in Limestone. All factors that would limit attendance there. I personally would skip it before going through what it took to get in and out of that place again.
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To suggest that Super Ball IX's lower ticket sales is because of location is a little far fetched. I believe it was one of the most accessible locations for phans, but it happened to be held during a holiday weekend where many people could not get out of familial obligations. As others have pointed out, the aging demographic of the fan base makes it more difficult for people to just skip town for the weekend during holidays.
I would probably make a trip to Limestone if they happen to do it again, however I would prefer a festival that is more reasonably situated. No matter where the festival is, once you're set up, you're going to feel isolated from the world around you. That's just the nature of it. I think more people would prefer to have a 3-5 hour trip, as opposed to a 12-15 hour trip.
I would probably make a trip to Limestone if they happen to do it again, however I would prefer a festival that is more reasonably situated. No matter where the festival is, once you're set up, you're going to feel isolated from the world around you. That's just the nature of it. I think more people would prefer to have a 3-5 hour trip, as opposed to a 12-15 hour trip.
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@Play_IT_Leooo said: This chatter and complaining about potential traffic issues makes the aging phanbase sound pretty soft, by the way.And comments like that make you sound like an inexperienced kid
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all those complaining about Limestone are softies. wah wah aging fan base. Part of the thrill and fun of Limestone was the wait. Meeting folks in the parking lot line, the sense of unbridled anticipation, will we ever get in??? If you are looking for convenience and hotels/airports whatever, stay on regular tour. If you are looking for an adventure, go to the Limestone fest. Its too early anyway. NYE was 4 weeks ago. Kids need to relax.
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At this point I'm just hoping the festy doesn't conflict with one of the 3 weddings we have to go to his summer...
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@NoFIller said: all those complaining about Limestone are softies. wah wah aging fan base. Part of the thrill and fun of Limestone was the wait. Meeting folks in the parking lot line, the sense of unbridled anticipation, will we ever get in??? If you are looking for convenience and hotels/airports whatever, stay on regular tour. If you are looking for an adventure, go to the Limestone fest. Its too early anyway. NYE was 4 weeks ago. Kids need to relax.
You have never even been to limestone so I don't know what you're getting at.
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The spot is definitely available and the Loring Development Authority (or whatever its called) would definitely welcome us back. (I e-mailed someone there a couple months ago. He asked not to be cited or fully quoted. But thats fact, whether you want to believe me or not.)There is a functioning, active airport right there. (Who knows what their schedules look like?)
Low attendance at Superball was mainly due to the combination of it being a late announcement and it being on a holiday weekend.
I dont see any way to mitigate the traffic on Rt. 1.
Romanticizing that nightmare is delusional. Sure we made the best of it, but it was just a coping mechanism.
All that stated, I'd be happy to go back, but would give it less than 1 in 10 that thats the spot.
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@gskatz said: Limestone is 6 hours from the southern tip of Maine. Way the fuk up there. You could shoot a potato gun into canada.
If a new, remote location is in the works, you may have to come north of the border for this year's festie. We got lots of open space. Either that or Alaska, take your pick.
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@fanman900 said: Who says its gonna be a freaking repeat location.. New year, new festival, new location, new phish album?A repeat isn't expected from Phish, HOWEVER, considering that this is a 30th anniversary year... they could.
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@Super_Sash said: At this point I'm just hoping the festy doesn't conflict with one of the 3 weddings we have to go to his summer...People get married everyday. Phish Festivals only happen once in awhile. Have them put the ceremony on skype.
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superball maybe at 40 maxxxxx and thats pushing it. the fan base is there but not everyone has hundreds of dollars to drive to maine with.
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@brfarrell said: @Super_Sash said:While normally I'd just RSVP no...it's my brother and its 4th of July weekend. he wants to do a 3 day bachelor party on tour.At this point I'm just hoping the festy doesn't conflict with one of the 3 weddings we have to go to his summer...People get married everyday. Phish Festivals only happen once in awhile. Have them put the ceremony on skype.
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Limestone is quite possible..I don't see any reason why it couldn't be there...
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Sat in traffic for about 12 hours to get into IT. It's not to bad, kind of like a moving party. One thing that worked against SBIX was the fact that it was 4th of July weekend.
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@johnnyd said: There is a functioning, active airport right there. (Who knows what their schedules look like?)Looks like it's used by small planes, not commercial flights.
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Yup. But you know it can handle big planes. Charter a 787 from Newburgh. I'll see if I can get a C-135 from Burlington. We can have a contest to see how many w00ks we can respectively fit.
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well most of the vets dont wanna drive back, but id go in a heartbeat, ive driven farther for less, but i'm also young so i could see why some of the older heads wouldnt wanna make the trip
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IT and sb9 are the only festS iv seen. The amount of people at superball would not warrant a festival at limestone.
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IN D OH
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IN D NOOOOOOOO.....BIG CYPRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Summer fest means no ca or fl
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@Super_Sash said: @brfarrell said:That sounds awesome.@Super_Sash said:While normally I'd just RSVP no...it's my brother and its 4th of July weekend. he wants to do a 3 day bachelor party on tour.At this point I'm just hoping the festy doesn't conflict with one of the 3 weddings we have to go to his summer...People get married everyday. Phish Festivals only happen once in awhile. Have them put the ceremony on skype.
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And I do think that they'll plan one last remote festival for the 10th / 30th year before taking convenience into consideration. Watched the IT dvd again the other night and each member made it pretty clear that the remoteness / the clear distances traveled by fans helped their focus and encouraged them to rise to the occasion.
Limestone is quite possible..I don't see any reason why it couldn't be there...That's all I was looking for. Not the wisdom behind it, but simply whether Loring was open for business. Thanks.
And I do think that they'll plan one last remote festival for the 10th / 30th year before taking convenience into consideration. Watched the IT dvd again the other night and each member made it pretty clear that the remoteness / the clear distances traveled by fans helped their focus and encouraged them to rise to the occasion.
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Dumb question but...we're sure phest is going to be in the general northeast vicinity right? There's no way that the boys are gonna pull a fast one and do a 3 day run in like, Scottsdale, Arizona right?
::runs and hides::
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