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He was trying to get rid of the evidence. f*** man, cops are closing in, gotta do all this gas so they don't find it. No officer that was just oxygen I was inhaling, I have poor circulation.
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I love once they shot him, the filled balloon just fell out his mouth and flew all over the car.
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this, my friends, is the difference between nitrous mafia and nitrous douche.
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awesome... what a tool bag!
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11:12 A.M...wowI have to think that those officers have no idea about effects of nitrous or what he was doing. Or they just didn't care. 4 guys throwing you around on concrete with a head full of nitrous is NOT a smart thing to do. The guy is a fool granted, but I think the video shows pretty clearly he was giving up.
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damn wook stole a car
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Proud to be from CT
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@conradjohansen said:
No he wasn't. If he was trying to get ride of the evidence why would he keep filling up balloons? He would have just left the nozzle open and let it all fly out.
He was trying to get rid of the evidence. f*** man, cops are closing in, gotta do all this gas so they don't find it. No officer that was just oxygen I was inhaling, I have poor circulation.
No he wasn't. If he was trying to get ride of the evidence why would he keep filling up balloons? He would have just left the nozzle open and let it all fly out.
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Yah totally a Nitrous mafia guy rolling around in a 2 toned car while blowing gas?Thayers no such thing as the nitrous mafia! This is just some jackass huffing gas and driving! also if it was a reasonably smart person they would have just rolled up thayer window and turned that little 10lbr they had on! no charge!
Nitrous mafia is something people invent to hate the supplier! They would be dicks if u asshats could form a line and not rush the tank!
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"The suspect, a self proclaimed fan of the band 'Phish' was reported to be repeatedly yelling 'I am Nitrogen!' as officers were taking him into custody."
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@Phlat_Brim_Kid said: Thayers no such thing as the nitrous mafia!Wrong. There are organized, cooperative, armed, violent THUGS, who pool money, security, lookouts, and resources. You can choose to call those c***suckers something other than a "nitrous mafia", but whatever you call it, there is such a thing, and it sucks.
Nitrous mafia is something people invent to hate the supplier! They would be dicks if u asshats could form a line and not rush the tank!You're either living in denial, part of the problem, or blinded by that phlat brim.
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@Lemuria said: @Phlat_Brim_Kid said:Yah people run tanks in groups of 5 or so, that doesnt make it organized crime! They arent all working togather. They dont have a structured chain of command.Thayers no such thing as the nitrous mafia!Wrong. There are organized, cooperative, armed, violent THUGS, who pool money, security, lookouts, and resources. You can choose to call those c***suckers something other than a "nitrous mafia", but whatever you call it, there is such a thing, and it sucks.Nitrous mafia is something people invent to hate the supplier! They would be dicks if u asshats could form a line and not rush the tank!You're either living in denial, part of the problem, or blinded by that phlat brim.
5-7 guys working the same product togather isnt a "mafia". Im sure thayers somone thats got 5 or 7 guys pushing his mahl or boomers on lot, but we dont call them the mushroom mafia? Yes they are breaking laws for profit but mafia no. We "see" them work togather more easly becuase running a tank is very visisble, which makes it seem more organized than it really is.
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I'm sorry but if you don't believe in the nitrous mafia you're obviously not in the know. I've seen this shit firsthand. If you have ever been on a phish lot after the show, you've seen it. The police do nothing. Shit, I was at the Trey SYMPHONY SHOW and there were nitrous mafia on PENN AVE! Anyone who knows Pittsburgh will tell you how ludicrous that is. The police just look the other way. They bully the people around them, they've beaten people up badly at All Good and Vibes. This is one part of our scene that I'm truly embarrassed by.Its ugly and its a blight on our scene. I don't mean to offend but nothing pisses me off more than people who are like "yeah the nitrous mafia are crooks and assholes and they create a violent atmosphere that is like a cancer to our scene...but you know a few balloons here and there isn't a big deal".
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@sn0rkel said: @conradjohansen said:he said he was trying to get rid of the evidence. he didn't say he was smart.He was trying to get rid of the evidence. f*** man, cops are closing in, gotta do all this gas so they don't find it. No officer that was just oxygen I was inhaling, I have poor circulation.
No he wasn't. If he was trying to get ride of the evidence why would he keep filling up balloons? He would have just left the nozzle open and let it all fly out.
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@MiguelSanchez said: this, my friends, is the difference between nitrous mafia and nitrous douche.I didn't know there was a difference
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Also- if you're from Pittsburgh and go to jam shows you'll notice the nitrous mafia is always perfectly setup the second the show ends and for 15 minutes thereafter in the Stage AE lot. You're going to tell me the police don't know that happens? Bethel, Pittsburgh, Blossom...these are all shows where I've literally seen police with their backs turned to the people with the tanks. This shit runs deeper than a few sleazy wooks trying to make an extra buck at their hometown show.
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@MiguelSanchez said: this, my friends, is the difference between nitrous mafia and nitrous douche.The nitrous Mafia and it's cohorts are nitrous douches
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Top two craziest nitrous sales I've seen:
Private security company van with over a dozen tanks in the back, (in NJ parking lot).
Major city's fire department EMS truck on random city street near downtown venue.
*Edit: okay, the fire department ambulance was the craziest by far..
Private security company van with over a dozen tanks in the back, (in NJ parking lot).
Major city's fire department EMS truck on random city street near downtown venue.
*Edit: okay, the fire department ambulance was the craziest by far..
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@Phlat_Brim_Kid said: 5-7 guys working the same product togather isnt a "mafia".Right. But multiple sets of 3-5 guys per tank (or per car of tanks), sharing resources and "security", cooperatively avoiding Johnny Law and combatting opposition, etc. - that's the nitrous mafia.
Or ~15 guys showing up on the AC boardwalk with a dozen tanks (all the same size, make, design, etc.) at the same time with the same product and prices, yelling to (not at) each other about what to do and who not to serve, etc. - that's the nitrous mafia.
It makes sense, sociologically. There's a shit-ton of money to be made, easily clearing $30K/night, which breeds greed and evil. If 'shrooms had comparable payoffs, and comparable risks in terms of visibility, noise, etc., there might be a 'shroom mafia, too. But small bags of dried vegetation passed quietly palm-to-palm don't require the protection of a gang of thugs that hundreds of 24" squeaky balloons and hissing tanks apparently do.
All that said, the thread title doesn't have much basis (unless the suspect has since been identified, and either linked to some syndicate or recognized from lots). One loon in his car isn't clearly a "mafia member".
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I know someone that ground-scored a full tank after the nitrous peddlers got bused on west lot at 2012 Dick's. It was a bad night for one nitrous-slinger after the cops accidentally broke his nose. Those are the riskssssssss!
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worcester !
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@spanishmoon said: @MiguelSanchez said:It's just a matter of profitability.this, my friends, is the difference between nitrous mafia and nitrous douche.I didn't know there was a difference
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@Lemuria said: @Phlat_Brim_Kid said:Hey bro im not agrueing these are nice people. Im just saying calling them a mafia/orginized crime, is really more of a misnomer. Its just cool to say. They are totally criminals and not nice people, but they arent part of large group of orginized criminals conspiring togather. they are a bunch of little groups or "gangs" working seperatly and indepently of each other. They word Mafia grossly overstates what they are. IMO5-7 guys working the same product togather isnt a "mafia".Right. But multiple sets of 3-5 guys per tank (or per car of tanks), sharing resources and "security", cooperatively avoiding Johnny Law and combatting opposition, etc. - that's the nitrous mafia. Or ~15 guys showing up on the AC boardwalk with a dozen tanks (all the same size, make, design, etc.) at the same time with the same product and prices, yelling to (not at) each other about what to do and who not to serve, etc. - that's the nitrous mafia. It makes sense, sociologically. There's a shit-ton of money to be made, easily clearing $30K/night, which breeds greed and evil. If 'shrooms had comparable payoffs, and comparable risks in terms of visibility, noise, etc., there might be a 'shroom mafia, too. But small bags of dried vegetation passed quietly palm-to-palm don't require the protection of a gang of thugs that hundreds of 24" squeaky balloons and hissing tanks apparently do. All that said, the thread title doesn't have much basis (unless the suspect has since been identified, and either linked to some syndicate or recognized from lots). One loon in his car isn't clearly a "mafia member".
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@Phlat_Brim_Kid said: ...They are totally criminals and not nice people, but they arent part of large group of orginized criminals conspiring togather.Sometimes, they are.
they are a bunch of little groups or "gangs" working seperatly and indepently of each other. They word Mafia grossly overstates what they are.Sometimes it doesn't.
IMOIt's really more a matter of empirical fact than opinion, but okay.
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WOW.
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amazing that a tazer would even faze this dude- did you see how much of that shit he was sucking down?
"yeah i'm here for the free NO2 giveaway"
"sir this is actually an intervention"
"cool, so where's the latex?"
"yeah i'm here for the free NO2 giveaway"
"sir this is actually an intervention"
"cool, so where's the latex?"
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@Phlat_Brim_Kid said: @Lemuria said:http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-07-06/music/hippie-crack-nitrous-mafia-boston/ really interesting read regardless@Phlat_Brim_Kid said:Hey bro im not agrueing these are nice people. Im just saying calling them a mafia/orginized crime, is really more of a misnomer. Its just cool to say. They are totally criminals and not nice people, but they arent part of large group of orginized criminals conspiring togather. they are a bunch of little groups or "gangs" working seperatly and indepently of each other. They word Mafia grossly overstates what they are. IMO5-7 guys working the same product togather isnt a "mafia".Right. But multiple sets of 3-5 guys per tank (or per car of tanks), sharing resources and "security", cooperatively avoiding Johnny Law and combatting opposition, etc. - that's the nitrous mafia. Or ~15 guys showing up on the AC boardwalk with a dozen tanks (all the same size, make, design, etc.) at the same time with the same product and prices, yelling to (not at) each other about what to do and who not to serve, etc. - that's the nitrous mafia. It makes sense, sociologically. There's a shit-ton of money to be made, easily clearing $30K/night, which breeds greed and evil. If 'shrooms had comparable payoffs, and comparable risks in terms of visibility, noise, etc., there might be a 'shroom mafia, too. But small bags of dried vegetation passed quietly palm-to-palm don't require the protection of a gang of thugs that hundreds of 24" squeaky balloons and hissing tanks apparently do. All that said, the thread title doesn't have much basis (unless the suspect has since been identified, and either linked to some syndicate or recognized from lots). One loon in his car isn't clearly a "mafia member".
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No, there is a nitrous mafia phlatty youve never seen the guy with the long hair and his companions with the bluetooths at the end of every corner. This is a Mafia. straight up. it's pretty obvious to see the organization at the shows.
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look having a bluetooth and a crew to help u make money doenst make it orginized crime! they all operate individually indepently of each other! while they may have a loose knowlegde of eachother to stop from stepping on eachothers toes, thayer is no nitrous godfather! Its readily gotten if u can get approved for a license from boston philly or fla! with the proper license you can go get it and get a group of friends and do it yourselfs. Does that make u mafia or orgized crime, no it doesnt. it makes u one of the groups making money on gas! And while u can make assumptions by what u see or what u read in the village voice, thayer is no such national criminal orginization as the nitrous mafai!
They are indepently funtioning crews with no higher authority or afilation!
yes those groups are orginized thats how they make money, thayer good at it!
Yes thayer criminals.
But 10 guys are not a mafia.
thayer drug dealers!
Just like all the other drug dealers. Except u see everything they do becuase of the product they work is more visible than small pill!
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Yea I really don't see what the whole gripe over the nitrous mafia thing is. Yea they may be organized somewhat, just as any system of drug distribution is. The real reason people hate it is because it's a shit stain on the Phish scene. It only serves to perpetuate stereotypes and kill brain cells. Jesus christ smoke a joint instead.
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@Phlat_Brim_Kid said: look having a bluetooth and a crew to help u make money doenst make it orginized crime! they all operate individually indepently of each other! while they may have a loose knowlegde of eachother to stop from stepping on eachothers toes, thayer is no nitrous godfather! Its readily gotten if u can get approved for a license from boston philly or fla! with the proper license you can go get it and get a group of friends and do it yourselfs. Does that make u mafia or orgized crime, no it doesnt. it makes u one of the groups making money on gas!it is bigger than what you are seeing.
And while u can make assumptions by what u see or what u read in the village voice, thayer is no such national criminal orginization as the nitrous mafai!
They are indepently funtioning crews with no higher authority or afilation!
yes those groups are orginized thats how they make money, thayer good at it!
Yes thayer criminals.
But 10 guys are not a mafia.
thayer drug dealers!
Just like all the other drug dealers. Except u see everything they do becuase of the product they work is more visible than small pill!
pretty sure they don't call themselves the nitrous mafia though, but it is an organized system of fraud/theft/whatever that gets them these tanks, and then a distro chain... seems like an organized crime chain!
companies sell tanks to buyers (they don't know who is leaking it out to the black market obvz, but somebody is doing it) -> main distro scum getting the product -> stupid punks being assfaces on lot and selling you this shit -> even more stupid person who inhales from the 'loon.
bam
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Whatever you wanna call them they suck ass
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The worst thing about the Nitrous Mafia is "thayer" ruining our ability to spell. Just sayin'
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More seriously . . .
I think people are getting too hung up on the specific associations of the word "mafia" which has a massive, Five Families, global Cosa Nostra-type vibe to it. Everything I have ever seen of these guys -- the organization, the chain of command, the obvious hush money given to the police, the violence -- suggest to me that they constitute organized crime. Of course, we can all quibble about how to define "organized crime," but I'm more inclined to buy the definition of someone like Lemuria, who is a sociologist, than Phlat Brim Kid, who is (no disrespect intended) a Phlat Brim Kid. Do these guys whack people out? No. Do they wear pinkie rings? Probably not. Do they say stuff like "Don't go against the family?" or "Look what they did to my boy?!" Doubt it seriously. Is the label Nitrous Mafia misapplied? Nope. Nope. Nope. I think it points to something significant in how these guys roll.
I think people are getting too hung up on the specific associations of the word "mafia" which has a massive, Five Families, global Cosa Nostra-type vibe to it. Everything I have ever seen of these guys -- the organization, the chain of command, the obvious hush money given to the police, the violence -- suggest to me that they constitute organized crime. Of course, we can all quibble about how to define "organized crime," but I'm more inclined to buy the definition of someone like Lemuria, who is a sociologist, than Phlat Brim Kid, who is (no disrespect intended) a Phlat Brim Kid. Do these guys whack people out? No. Do they wear pinkie rings? Probably not. Do they say stuff like "Don't go against the family?" or "Look what they did to my boy?!" Doubt it seriously. Is the label Nitrous Mafia misapplied? Nope. Nope. Nope. I think it points to something significant in how these guys roll.
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@MiguelSanchez said:
this, my friends, is the difference between nitrous mafia and nitrous douche.do you think a lady could get high from one of those?
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Look the companies that make this shit know exactly who they sell to! they do and are complicet in it.@proffesordude I use thayer a joke, but use it to attack me, then say im a "Phlat Brim Kid" judge much buddy u dont know me. U dont weather im right or not, becuase u dont.
Everyone keeps saying everything ive seen about them...... thayer a mafia.
Well all u seen is the guys on lot. If that the extent of it.................
Ive seent the statue of liberty disapear it wasnt a trick or something my eyes made my brain mistake.
Its just a bunch of small gangs, not a national syndicate.
Nitrous dueche bags yes! mafia no.
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@maplesteam said: @MiguelSanchez said:this, my friends, is the difference between nitrous mafia and nitrous douche.do you think a lady could get high from one of those?
YES THIS!! HILLAROUIS!!!!!!!!!
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@Phlat_Brim_Kid said: @maplesteam said:FWIW - OP just threw the 'nitrous mafia' label on this story to get it more attention. At NO POINT does the article say he is in any way affiliated with the nitrous mafia and I don't really think he is. But its out there, it may not be called "mafia" but it is organized and its out there. If you don't think it is, you're just wrong and clearly didn't read the article I provided.@MiguelSanchez said:this, my friends, is the difference between nitrous mafia and nitrous douche.do you think a lady could get high from one of those?
YES THIS!! HILLAROUIS!!!!!!!!!
EDIT: Also I've seen it way past just people on lot. I've had a friend who had connections with it who was able to order a tank in a state he wasn't in and have it delivered to him at a gas station. If you think "these companies know who they are selling to" you're crazy. They obviously don't knowingly sell to be people who are going to go to a music festival and let a bunch of hippies huff this gas for a non-medical use. You know why? That's illegal. THIS is where the organized aspect comes into play. Its how they get around that part of it. Just like any other drug. Most black market activities can be associated with organized crime, that is just a fact.
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@harroldHOOD said: @Phlat_Brim_Kid said:i read the artical 2 years ago when i came out. he was part of a drug crew and like everyone that every recalls thayer criminal activities to news or entertiament indurstry he dramatized it.@maplesteam said:FWIW - OP just threw the 'nitrous mafia' label on this story to get it more attention. At NO POINT does the article say he is in any way affiliated with the nitrous mafia and I don't really think he is. But its out there, it may not be called "mafia" but it is organized and its out there. If you don't think it is, you're just wrong and clearly didn't read the article I provided. EDIT: Also I've seen it way past just people on lot. I've had a friend who had connections with it who was able to order a tank in a state he wasn't in and have it delivered to him at a gas station. If you think "these companies know who they are selling to" you're crazy. They obviously don't knowingly sell to be people who are going to go to a music festival and let a bunch of hippies huff this gas for a non-medical use. You know why? That's illegal. THIS is where the organized aspect comes into play. Its how they get around that part of it. Just like any other drug. Most black market activities can be associated with organized crime, that is just a fact.@MiguelSanchez said:YES THIS!! HILLAROUIS!!!!!!!!!this, my friends, is the difference between nitrous mafia and nitrous douche.do you think a lady could get high from one of those?
Are u a member of this mafia? where does your knowledge come from that proves to u that i am so wrong?
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If you think there is no Nitrous Mafia, set up a tank right next to one of them next time you're at a show and undercut their price. Or go try to tell them to get the f*** off lot or you'll call the cops. See what happens...No other illicit drug dealings require the scale of cooperation from law enforcement that this does. If you can't understand that THAT requires a level of organized crime, you're a fool.
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@harroldHOOD said: If you think there is no Nitrous Mafia, set up a tank right next to one of them next time you're at a show and undercut their price. Or go try to tell them to get the f*** off lot or you'll call the cops. See what happens... No other illicit drug dealings require the scale of cooperation from law enforcement that this does. If you can't understand that THAT requires a level of organized crime, you're a fool.Try to steal any drug dealers customers in front of him or threaten them, see where it gets u! i gues every drug dealer is in a mafia! They dont pay off the police dept in cities iether. in most states the laws arent thayer to combat the issue. thayer weak charges and non felonies. what cop making his overtime at a concert is gonna want that paperwork. the cops are just indiffent or lazy, not paid off. get real
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Difference between mafia and just dealers is quickly discovered if you ever try to competitively sell nitrous on your own at a show. If they let you compete, not mafia. If you get bullied out, it's mafia. End of story, nothing else to be argued.
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@Robert_Zimmerman said: "The suspect, a self proclaimed fan of the band 'Phish' was reported to be repeatedly yelling 'I am Nitrogen!' as officers were taking him into custody."I would love to see a guy selling balloons wearing an "I Am Nitrogen" shirt at a show, heh.
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I am a supply and demand kind of thinkerTanks are not hard to get....at least not the schwag food grade being slung on lot.....aside from wide-eyed kids who have never seen it, I can't imagine why it has the draw that it does when anyone can go get it.....it isn't like some rare thing that is difficult to obtain
....I do wonder what a crew would say if you set up shop next to them and just started giving it away....show up in a clown outfit with one of those carts you see in the park and just hand them out.....now THAT would be a gag to tell stories about
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@Phlat_Brim_Kid said: @harroldHOOD said:First off...."thayer" is not a substitute for proper grammar. Secondly...I've never seen anyone beating up rival LSD or weed or molly dealer. Even if they were doing it right next to each other. This isn't harlem brah. These are phlat brim kids with backpacks. Not thugs waiting to jump someone for crowding their block. Lastly, cops get a hard on for harassing hippies and anyone under 30 for that matter. It makes perfect sense to me and most that the reason they look the other way on tanks sometimes is because they're paid off. It's not like they never bust tanks.If you think there is no Nitrous Mafia, set up a tank right next to one of them next time you're at a show and undercut their price. Or go try to tell them to get the f*** off lot or you'll call the cops. See what happens... No other illicit drug dealings require the scale of cooperation from law enforcement that this does. If you can't understand that THAT requires a level of organized crime, you're a fool.Try to steal any drug dealers customers in front of him or threaten them, see where it gets u! i gues every drug dealer is in a mafia! They dont pay off the police dept in cities iether. in most states the laws arent thayer to combat the issue. thayer weak charges and non felonies. what cop making his overtime at a concert is gonna want that paperwork. the cops are just indiffent or lazy, not paid off. get real
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The funniest thing about these threads is all the people that seem to assume that the nitrous people are organized, whereas all the other lot-slingers are not. You think the people you're getting your doses off of aren't organized? 
They're just more low key about things.
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@Busta_Move said: The funniest thing about these threads is all the people that seem to assume that the nitrous people are organized, whereas all the other lot-slingers are not. You think the people you're getting your doses off of aren't organized? http://i.imgur.com/cX4cVdT.gif They're just more low key about things.I think this is a great point and one I was trying to make earlier that essentially any black market dealing, even a simple bag of nugs, is rooted in some form of organized crime. not ALWAYS, but often.
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