...i think it might have something to do with the wet/dry outs on the whammy... perhaps the wet is going to a delay and the dry is going straight to the amp?

*correction

'Doc > TSx2 > comp >
> FX loop (whammy + delay)
> amp

(sorry it wouldn't let me edit)

Thanks, yes I saw that, and I didn't really learn much new info from it, but I always dig hearing him talk about his effects. I enjoyed all those gear vids... they are like porn for me. (I liked the Mike one the best because I knew nothing about his rig, and I found it interesting that he seems to take a different approach, perhaps embracing the technology a bit more, where Trey favors simplicity).

There is a TON of detailed discussion on Trey's rig over at thegearpage.net, + some super high-res photos of the stage setup and sound tent (from I think 2010 or 11). I'm pretty familiar with what he uses and in what order, but I still can't figure out what exactly I'm hearing in that particular Fire. It's a super cool trick.

I did some testing and it seems possible that it could have been done with a long single-repeat delay. He plays a sustained note into the whammy/delay while pitch shifting it, then switches off the FX loop and goes back to soloing, while we still hear the "screech" coming from the delay. Then he switches it back on and does it again, this time sweeping back to the heel. Possible, but still hard as f*** to do!

Here's a different question... Have you ever heard a similar effect before or since? If so, what show/song? It's hard to clearly hear what's going on in that raging Fire.

Kind of related, I borrowed a buddies whammy the other day and looped a slow single note ascension from heel to toe on the pedal. Then everytime it hit either the highest or lowest part of the loop I would hit reverse and the whole sound repeats backwards. Its a cool little trick if you dont have a delay pedal

Your welcome, I love talking about effects/gear.

Well you can achieve the modulation effect if you play around with the 'delay' knob on your delay pedal while having a phrase being repeated.

But yea Trey has it programmed on his midi switcher into a button making it much, much simpler. It's a one trick pony type of effect imo, but it is cool to have in the back pocket.

@feralchild said:

Hi again, so it turns out the H910 algorithm in the Pitchfactor can ALMOST do it. (Ramps pitch but not speed).

Also, yeah, some vintage style delays can produce a similar effect if you tweak the rate.

I am led to believe that this is actually a bug in the DM2000 that Trey is exploiting? Now that I know what it is, I'm hearing it everywhere. (i.e. during Free jams.)

Yea Trey takes full advantage of the glitch, especially in the old days (Mind Left Bowie). Also the delay doesn't need to be vintage to get the modulating effects, just needs to be analog. As a matter of fact some digital delays can do this. Hence the DM2000.