@me_no_are_no_nice_guy said:

@leaviton said:

@me_no_are_no_nice_guy said:

@leaviton said:

There is more than just the party at a phish show or a dead show. There are political and social movements happening.

Could you please expand on this?

well, there is "the mockingbird foundation" "the waterwheel" ,"the rex foundation" "unbroken chain foundation" "consciouse alliance" and "headcount" - just sayin' , I was attracted to the scene before i got the music and it was about the "inclusive" family vibe as well as the fans being politically and socially aware. Activism was at the forefront of the hippie culture- it wasn't all about who can get the most f***ed up.

I hear what you're saying. I'm just not sure that the people who set up booths at phish shows for for the kinds of foundations you are talking about, really represent Phish fans. The phish scene certainly has a more "hippy dippy" vibe, and along with that comes some good organizations, but what percentage of people at a phish show are affiliated or have ever done anything with any of the causes you mentioned? It's a nice thought, to think that when you're at a phish show that you're making a difference, but you're just at a Phish show.

True, not all fans get involved,but, I am speaking in terms of the fans as a whole. Of course there are kids on phish lot that are strictly there for the party and that is o.k.; however, the majority are more aware and concerned with topics beyond "woot woot! lets get hammered"
Beyond the booths that are set up , there are also fan groups such as "the phellowship" , "the wharfrats", "SOP" Whom try to make a positive difference in the world both on and off the lot.
I think for some it is"just a phish show" ,but, for others(such as myself) it is going to church, its a spiritual experience and it's where i recharge from everyday life. When I am on tour or at a show I am reminded of who I want to be through my associations with other fans. Maybe I am just at a phish show,but, being at that show helps shape who i am and ,in turn, makes a difference in the world i live in by my interaction with it. Positivity can be contagious and i just don't get any sense of that from the video.